10/1/25 Bronx All Hands 10-60 Box 2154

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Incident Location: 207 Alexander Avenue (NYCHA Mitchel Houses)

Phone Alarm Reporting A Building Explosion - 205 Alexander Avenue - 08:10.

B14: Transmit The 10-75 & 10-80 Code 1, Gas Explosion On The Exterior Of The Building - 08:16.

L55 - FAST.

CIDS: 20-Story 70x100 Class 1 Multiple Dwelling.

D6: Using All Hands (E35 & L30) - 08:29.

D6: We Need A Skid Steer To Respond To Search The Rubble - 08:33.

D6: Incinerator Shaft Collapsed Off The Side Of The Building, Searches In Progress - 08:40.

D6: Transmit The 10-60 - 08:41.

BX: E46CU, L42 HazMat Support, B16RUL, B26SO.

*Selected Staging Area - East 138th Street & 3rd Avenue*

D6: We Need DEP To Respond Due To Undermining To Water Mains - 08:47.

FC: ConEd Is On Scene & Attempting To Shut Down The Gas, s/c TS02 - 08:57.

FC: ConEd Has Gas Shut Down To The Building - 08:59.

FC: s/c (1) Additional Truck (L154 act. L29) - 09:02.

FC: Collapse Zone Established, DWH - 09:34.

FC: (2) K9's Conducted A Search Of The Rubble, Negative Results. PWH - 09:44.

FC: Under Control - 10:02 (Duration 1hr, 52 Min).

Rundown:
E060, E083, E071, E059, E035, E046S, E050*
T017, L029, L055F, L030, L154 act. L029 s/c
L116T RC04, L042S
BC14, BC12, BC16R, BC26S
RS03, RS04
Q041, Q061
DC06
RA03
L116T RC04
RB01, SB01, FC01, CT01, RE01, TS01, TS02 s/c, K901
HM01, HB01, E044H
SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor
SL01, SC01
*E50 Operating & Assigned*

Cars: 1, 1B, 3, 4, 11, 11A, 11X, 12, 13, 13R, 15A, 16C, 22, 22D, 22G, 23A, 23B, 23D, 24.

Relocations:
L154 act. L29
E79 act. E46
L43 act. L29
E262 act. E60
TL160 act. L42
TL115 act. TL17
SQ252 act. SQ41
B52 act. B14
 
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Car 1 Fire Commissioner
Car-11 (Chief of Special Operations Command)[
Car 11A (Chief of Rescue Operations BC
Car-11X(Captain of Command Tac) Capt
Car-12 (Chief of Safety Command) DAC
Car-15A (Chief of Fire Academy Randall's Island) DAC
 
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seniorofficer said:
Unusual location for a compactor/incinerator shaft. They were usually located central core, adjacent to the elevator shaft.
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I was wondering the same , and if you look closely at the debris pile you can see widow air conditioners splattered about . Compactor/incinerator shafts don’t have AC units. Also have my doubts about a gas explosion, if you look at the rubble pile it looks like that entire line just collapsed straight down, sort like a curtain wall collapse, if in fact it was a gas explosion the debris field would be much wider seeing how the blast radius goes out in all directions and probably would have done some damage to the adjacent apartments too. Just my opinion from what I see from the local news helicopter. Was hoping the news helicopter would have zoomed in on an adjacent building to see exactly what the corner looks like pre-collapse. I’m sure the collapse must have sounded like an explosion and that’s what most of the 911 calls may have reported.
 
seniorofficer said:
Unusual location for a compactor/incinerator shaft. They were usually located central core, adjacent to the elevator shaft.
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Interesting pattern of structural failure. Isn't the only gas source at the bottom of the shaft? Is this a structural failure first with gas problem afterwards? Where is the structural steel? Were the adjacent apartments compromised?
 
It's the shaft for the heating plant. Plant in the left foreground. Google view shows a series of yellow peck vents. Likely a gas explosion from a NG leak, luckily in the shaft. Early report of heavy NG odor.
 
alycidon said:
Car 1 Fire Commissioner
Car-11 (Chief of Special Operations Command)[
Car 11A (Chief of Rescue Operations BC
Car-11X(Captain of Command Tac) Capt
Car-12 (Chief of Safety Command) DAC
Car-15A (Chief of Fire Academy Randall's Island) DAC
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Apparently Car 16C, 23A, 22, 24, 13R, 4, 1B, 3 and 23B all also responded [per NYCFireWire]? What's Car 1B?
 
scoobyd said:
It's the shaft for the heating plant. Plant in the left foreground. Google view shows a series of yellow peck vents. Likely a gas explosion from a NG leak, luckily in the shaft. Early report of heavy NG odor.
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That would make sense. Looking on Google Maps, most NYCHA complexes have a single building with one of these shafts.
 
alycidon said:
Car 1 Fire Commissioner
Car-11 (Chief of Special Operations Command)[
Car 11A (Chief of Rescue Operations BC
Car-11X(Captain of Command Tac) Capt
Car-12 (Chief of Safety Command) DAC
Car-15A (Chief of Fire Academy Randall's Island) DAC
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Car-1B(Executive Officer to the Fire Commissioner)
Car-3(Chief of Department)
Car-4(Chief of Operations)
Car-11B(Chief of HAZMAT Operations)
Car-13(Chief of Fire Prevention)
Car-13R(Chief Fire Investigator)
Car-16C (Director of Fire Dispatch Operations)
Car-22(Assistant Commissioner Fleet Services)
Car-22D(Deputy Director Fleet Services)
Car-22G(Supervisor of Mechanics)
Car-23A(Press Duty)
Car-23D(Press Duty)
Car-24(Director of Technical Services)
 
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TLTruckie said:
I was wondering the same , and if you look closely at the debris pile you can see widow air conditioners splattered about . Compactor/incinerator shafts don’t have AC units. Also have my doubts about a gas explosion, if you look at the rubble pile it looks like that entire line just collapsed straight down, sort like a curtain wall collapse, if in fact it was a gas explosion the debris field would be much wider seeing how the blast radius goes out in all directions and probably would have done some damage to the adjacent apartments too. Just my opinion from what I see from the local news helicopter. Was hoping the news helicopter would have zoomed in on an adjacent building to see exactly what the corner looks like pre-collapse. I’m sure the collapse must have sounded like an explosion and that’s what most of the 911 calls may have reported.
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I agree with the logic of the curtain wall collapse. But If that's so, I'm trying to figure out how the A/C window unit on the 17th floor appears to be pushed away from the shaft, as if it was impacted by something.
 
From the view of building before that shaft collapsed can see AC units on both sides of the shaft.

I’d imagine many were held in by the weight of the unit, some cardboard and maybe some scotch tape.

IMO Any little disruption could knock them out let alone a possible gas explosion.

Thankfully and incredibly no injuries last I heard
 
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