10/24/23 Manhattan Technical Rescue Box 0822

[entropychaser]

From the FDNY Facebook page:

"FDNY members responded to a customer trapped in a vault at 580 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan late Tuesday night.
The vault – which has large concrete walls, steel re-enforcing bars and steel plating — runs on a timer and automatically shut while the man was still inside.
“We called our Rescue Units. Our Rescue Units have the capability with their tools to breach walls of this vault. The process was started to breach the wall of the vault; it’s about 30 inches or so of concrete. We got to the metal plating and determined at that point, after about 10 hours, we would hold off and see if the doors would open automatically,” said Deputy Assistant Chief John Sarrocco. “The problem with the plating is we’d have to use the torches and it would affect the environment of the person inside the vault. This morning, at about 6:15, the vault opened on its own and the customer was released.”
The man was evaluated by EMS."

Let's see, that would be about three inches per hour. Was this reinforced concrete? Seems like it should have gone faster. They only have one saw blade?

In retrospect, maybe they should have used the through-the-lock technique.

 

[Extra One & One]

Let's see, that would be about three inches per hour. Was this reinforced concrete? Seems like it should have gone faster. They only have one saw blade?

In retrospect, maybe they should have used the through-the-lock technique.

The vault – which has large concrete walls, steel re-enforcing bars and steel plating.

 

[Nasibova]

Why couldn't an employee or some executive just have opened the door somehow, you would think there is some protocol for instances like this?

 

[bxengine]

Man you guys shoulda went down into manhattan and told the chiefs and 30 year SOC guys how to do it. Cant believe our job wouldnt try numerous avenues, and just use a saw blade and 1 guy with a hammer.

 

[Nasibova]

Man you guys shoulda went down into manhattan and told the chiefs and 30 year SOC guys how to do it. Cant believe our job wouldnt try numerous avenues, and just use a saw blade and 1 guy with a hammer.

Can you explain this please >>> '' Why couldn't an employee or some executive just have opened the door somehow, you would think there is some protocol for instances like this? ''

 

[scoobyd]

A better question- if the news reports are correct, the person had breathable air and communication with outside. The safe was set to reopen in the morning. Why put in any effort to "rescue" a person who is not in peril?

 

[Capttomo]

Man you guys shoulda went down into manhattan and told the chiefs and 30 year SOC guys how to do it. Cant believe our job wouldnt try numerous avenues, and just use a saw blade and 1 guy with a hammer.

 

[entropychaser]

Man you guys shoulda went down into manhattan and told the chiefs and 30 year SOC guys how to do it. Cant believe our job wouldnt try numerous avenues, and just use a saw blade and 1 guy with a hammer.

I'm sure there was nothing said about this in the kitchen the next morning.

Don't just do something, stand there!

We're all looking forward to the seeing the training video.

 

[Nasibova]

A better question- if the news reports are correct, the person had breathable air and communication with outside. The safe was set to reopen in the morning. Why put in any effort to "rescue" a person who is not in peril?

And if they have no way of opening it in case of such '' emergencies '', they should at least leave a roll up mattress, blanket , pillow, jug of water and an mre stowed in there for the next time it happens. Camping toilet too l guess.

 

[Signal73]

3 feet of concrete