10/3/24 Brooklyn Water Rescue Box 2199

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Incident Location: Canarsie Pier

Phone Alarm Reporting A Person In The Water.

B58: (1) Witness Reporting A Person Went Under, (1) Rescue Swimmer Being Deployed - 23:45.

B58: (2) Rescue Swimmers Deployed, Contact Made With The Victim & We Are Working On Getting Him Out - 23:46 (Duration 9 Min).

B58: Victim & Both Rescue Swimmers Are Out Of The Water, Everyone Is Out. Any Units Not 10-84 Can Go 10-8 - 23:49.

Rundown:
E257, E283
TL170WRU, L174
B58
R2
SQ252
D15
RB, SB, TAC2, CTU
M3, M9, MB
 
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"Late Thursday night, #FDNY members from Ladder 170, Engine 257, and Ladder 174 responded to a call for a person in the water off the Canarsie Pier.
“The run came in at 11:30 at night and we had credible witnesses there who said they saw somebody go under. We put two members from Ladder 170 in the water, Firefighter Robert Velazquez and Firefighter Andrew Spadaro. FF Velazquez swam about 20 feet under the pier in pretty much pitch black and found the victim. He pulled him back out from underneath the pier to a ladder where the other members were waiting to get the victim up and out,” said Lieutenant Clifford Zeilman about a water rescue at the Canarsie Pier.
“Training is huge. We are a water rescue unit, so we go over this type of scenario a lot. Teamwork is essential, just for being able to then lift this person out of the water, up over the pier, which was about 15 feet out of the water. The whole company did a great job, from the members in the water, to the members setting up the two to one rope to be able to pull the victim out of the water, to the members setting up the ladder off the pier into the water to be able to get up and down. It’s all definitely about teamwork, and training just makes it seem like it’s secondhand,” said Lieutenant Zeilman.
The patient was transported to the hospital by #FDNY EMS in stable condition."

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I've often wondered if a tower ladder basket can be placed in the water a bit to facilitate a removal like this one.
I'm not sure if the Canarsie pier can support the weight of a tower ladder.
 
t123ken said:
I've often wondered if a tower ladder basket can be placed in the water a bit to facilitate a removal like this one.
I'm not sure if the Canarsie pier can support the weight of a tower ladder.
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Forgetting the weight capacity of the pier, it really depnds on a number of factors. Most aerial devices/towers have a negative angle factor. Usually around 10/15 degrees or so. So the basket or aerial can be placed on or near the ground. However, there's a lot that also needs to happen. In most cases, the boom or aerial needs to be a certain distance out, for the bucket or tip to be be that low. Equipment mounting on the top of the body may negate that angle also. Unless your trying to get into a canal or something.like that, it usually doesn't work. Also, reaching that far out and low, changes the center of gravity in the unit. At the very least, the tip capacity/load will change to a lower number. Which may make the operation impractical.
 
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