10/30/15 Manhattan 2nd Alarm 10-60 Box 751

Thanks, guys.  That answers my question.  My concept was, as I suspected, totally wrong, along with my other concept . . . I thought R6 had been given the Pierce. And so it makes sense that it would take at least a couple of hours to man the rig and get it to wherever they wanted it, right?
 
Since Ray mentioned the Pierce, I also thought it was the fully stocked spare these days.  What happened to it?  I thought everybody liked it when it was being used as a frontline unit.  I'm assuming it had some type of mechanical issues?
 
Bulldog said:
Since Ray mentioned the Pierce, I also thought it was the fully stocked spare these days.  What happened to it?  I thought everybody liked it when it was being used as a frontline unit.  I'm assuming it had some type of mechanical issues?
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The Pierce is still a spare ...not a reserve rig ,theres a difference .
A SPARE : and old non-front line rig , no equipment on it , used when one of the front line rigs goes OOS . That company takes their equipment off their front line rig and transfers it to the "spare"

A RESERVE ; an older non front line rig stocked with equipment and ready to be maned , can be placed in service in a reasonable short time .  Reserve eng have the 500 numbers on them ,501, 502 and so on , Reserve ladders 700 numbers ,701 ,702 and so on.  Rescue 6 and Squad 800
The job has several RESERVE eng and truck stratigitly stored though out the city
 
noticed they used alot of wood for shoring on this job. is there a cache of wood that can be pulled from on these long rescues? do the collapse pods carry the extra wood? and when they return to quarters is there a supply pile to restock?
 
TLTruckie said:
Bulldog said:
Since Ray mentioned the Pierce, I also thought it was the fully stocked spare these days.  What happened to it?  I thought everybody liked it when it was being used as a frontline unit.  I'm assuming it had some type of mechanical issues?
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The Pierce is still a spare ...not a reserve rig ,theres a difference .
A SPARE : and old non-front line rig , no equipment on it , used when one of the front line rigs goes OOS . That company takes their equipment off their front line rig and transfers it to the "spare"

A RESERVE ; an older non front line rig stocked with equipment and ready to be maned , can be placed in service in a reasonable short time .  Reserve eng have the 500 numbers on them ,501, 502 and so on , Reserve ladders 700 numbers ,701 ,702 and so on.  Rescue 6 and Squad 800
The job has several RESERVE eng and truck stratigitly stored though out the city
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I apologize for having my wording backwards.  I should is that I thought that the Pierce was a RESERVE and I mistakenly said I thought it was a SPARE.  However my original question still applies.  Why isn't the Pierce the front-line active RESERVE?  It's certainly the newest Rescue that's not in frontline service in my understanding was that everybody really like that rig when it was in service.  I also believe it's bigger than the spirit of Oklahoma so it would make more sense to be using it, what's the reason it's not being used as the RESERVE?
 
No need to apologize , just wasn't sure if everyone understood the difference ,so I though I would clear that up...thats all . As far as the Pierce is concerned , your right , its the newest and in far better condition of all the spares ...( the "Oklahoma" is in bad shape and very tired) so it best serves SOC as a spare . A spare is often used by a company with the  OOS rig for a much longer period of time, weeks and sometime even months while their frontline rig is being repaired. So it much more dependable then the others and better capable of handling the daily abuse of being a frontline rig again.

As far as the lumber used, all the Rescue's carry a small amount of lumber on their regular rig to do some basic simple shoring or enough to just get started at larger operations till the arrival of the Collapse rigs. The Collapse rigs carry a very large quantity of lumber , 4x4's,  2x4's,  2x6's,  6x6's and sheets of 3/4" plywood . 3 collapse rigs responded to this operation with most of all the equipment and all of the wood coming off of R-4's Collapse rig. With all the shoring that was done it didn't even come close depleting all the lumber from just one Collapse rig . And yes , the collapse pods also carry lumber .

All the Rescue companies store some lumber in their quarters to replenish what is used , if more is need to restock, then it has to come from the Rescue school at The Rock where even more is on hand .
 
TLTruckie said:
No need to apologize , just wasn't sure if everyone understood the difference ,so I though I would clear that up...thats all . As far as the Pierce is concerned , your right , its the newest and in far better condition of all the spares ...( the "Oklahoma" is in bad shape and very tired) so it best serves SOC as a spare .
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I guess my question arose because it was stated that the "Oklahoma" went into service as Rescue 6.  That would mean that it is a reserve unit instead of a spare and I thought that the Pierce stop was the Reserve rescue and would've been the unit going into service as Rescue 6.
 
The "Oklahoma" was only used as R-6 years ago when they placed in service an additional Rescue company to Manhattan during the Democratic Nation Convention , if I recall correctly, R-1 and R-6 spilt Manhattan at 23rd street ...R-6 south of 23rd  and R-1 north of 23rd  I believe it was in 2003 or 2004 for a few months leading up to and during the DNC, After the DNC the "Oklahoma" when back as a spare ...R-4 used the "Oklahoma" for a extended period of time while their 02 Saulsbury was being repaired after a major accident .

After that the Mack/General was used and that was just a nightmare , the rig was way to small and VERY poorly designed.
For the past few years R-4's old Saulbury has been the only reserve rescue rig as R-6...all the others are spare rigs now.
 
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