11/17/2017 Manhattan 6th Alarm Box 1622

[MAD148]

Mixer off 10-45?s....maybe.
Injured members mixer off...yes.
FYI, they are not the same thing.

 

[MAD148]

10-45 mixer off...maybe.
Injured member...mixer off- definitely.
However., they are not the same thing.

 

[enginecap]

Of the TLs operating are any 95? TLs?

6th Alarm(Relief)
E-35,91,76,286,38,24,206
L-21 Act. 45,12 Act. 14,58,172,163
B-31,17(Staging)
Rac-3s/c
Car-6A
Tac-2s/c

TL44 was the only 95 footer on the first 5 Alarms - Not sure when or if they went into operation.
With the 6th Alarm the brought in the big boys with 4 of those 5 TLs being 95's - TL21 being the lone 75'.

44 probably put it out.

Crickets

 

[enginecap]

I guess they should have gotten the cockloft nozzle into operation like car 6A wanted.  They would have knocked it down and BN 18 could have stayed on E Tremont where they belong instead of supervising a collapse team ??

I guess someone is going to have to take resonsibility for not getting that cockloft nozzel going a whole lot sooner.

Maybe car 6A should have recommended it when they transmitted top floor fire?

 

[enginecap]

So, just how does a dispatcher decide which Batt to assign to a special assign?

Certain Battalion Chiefs have particular skill sets.  BN 18 is the authority on collapse.....as well as gas leaks and highway accidents

 

[chiefblackcloud]

So, just how does a dispatcher decide which Batt to assign to a special assign?

Certain Battalion Chiefs have particular skill sets.  BN 18 is the authority on collapse.....as well as gas leaks and highway accidents

?

 

[THEMAJESTIRIUM1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rODBo4Dwkm4

( FDNY BOX 1622 - MANHATTAN ) - FDNY BATTLING A MAJOR VICIOUS 6TH ALARM FIRE IN A MULTIPLE DWELLING ON 144TH STREET AND BROADWAY IN THE HAMILTON HEIGHTS AREA OF MANHATTAN IN NEW YORK CITY.  ( WITH NEWS CONFERENCE BY FDNY CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT JAMES LEONARD ).

 

[Nasibova]

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They did end up putting a Ladder pipe into operation



Wow, a ladder pipe in FDNY, a rare sight, why did they use it? too much remaneuvering of apparatus to get another tower in there? of all the pics. and vids. in FDNY l see, it's a rare sight in recent years. 

 

[FDNY Response Videos]

FC: Car 3, place this fire under control

Fire under control 08:49 hours Duration 17 hours 39 mins

 

[Tabletop]

They probably should have special called the battalion that?s expertise is fire duty.

 

[firebuffkevin]

I notice E 263 (Communications) at many multiple alarms outside of their Queens Division.  Can anyone tell me why?
What are their specific duties?

 

[BoroCall]

If I'm not mistaken, in the old days, what is now a Cockloft Nozzel was then, a Ladder Pipe.

No a Ladderpipe is attached to the tip of an Aerial Ladder....the cockloft nozzle is hand held.

Oh, OK - I stand corrected - Thank you.

 

[BoroCall]

So, just how does a dispatcher decide which Batt to assign to a special assign?

Certain Battalion Chiefs have particular skill sets.  BN 18 is the authority on collapse.....as well as gas leaks and highway accidents

Does this mean all chief's in BN 18 have the same skill set's - or an individual chief?
?

 

[4 truck]

Of the TLs operating are any 95? TLs?

6th Alarm(Relief)
E-35,91,76,286,38,24,206
L-21 Act. 45,12 Act. 14,58,172,163
B-31,17(Staging)
Rac-3s/c
Car-6A
Tac-2s/c

TL44 was the only 95 footer on the first 5 Alarms - Not sure when or if they went into operation.
With the 6th Alarm the brought in the big boys with 4 of those 5 TLs being 95's - TL21 being the lone 75'.

44 probably put it out.

?

 

[HCO]

Two of the eight communications units, E-7 and E-263, are piloting use of the Kutta radio system.  The nearest Kutta equipped unit is assigned as the communications unit for incidents in Manhattan.

The Kutta system consists of two 45-watt UHF radios with all Fire and EMS channels, and a third radio operating on a much lower medium frequency, all in a Pelican case.  One UHF radio can be used as a post radio, or the two UHF radios may be used as a stand-alone repeater. The third mode uses the medium frequency radio as a link to another Kutta unit. E-7 and E-263 each carry two complete Kutta systems.

 

[mikeindabronx]

Two of the eight communications units, E-7 and E-263, are piloting use of the Kutta radio system.  The nearest Kutta equipped unit is assigned as the communications unit for incidents in Manhattan.

The Kutta system consists of two 45-watt UHF radios with all Fire and EMS channels, and a third radio operating on a much lower medium frequency, all in a Pelican case.  One UHF radio can be used as a post radio, or the two UHF radios may be used as a stand-alone repeater. The third mode uses with the medium frequency radio as a link to another Kutta unit. E-7 and E-263 each carry two complete Kutta systems.

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[guitarman314]

  A couple of Local News stations are saying there is one 6th floor tenant reported missing.

 

[BoroCall]

One Missing After 6-Alarm Fire Guts Upper Floors Of Hamilton Heights Apartment Building

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/11/18/investigation-underway-after-6-alarm-fire-guts-upper-floors-of-hamilton-heights-apartment-building/

Hamilton Heights fire: 1 unaccounted for, believed to be inside building
Email

http://abc7ny.com/1-unaccounted-for-believed-to-be-inside-nyc-fire-building/2665989/

 

[ladder197]

Of the TLs operating are any 95? TLs?

6th Alarm(Relief)
E-35,91,76,286,38,24,206
L-21 Act. 45,12 Act. 14,58,172,163
B-31,17(Staging)
Rac-3s/c
Car-6A
Tac-2s/c

TL44 was the only 95 footer on the first 5 Alarms - Not sure when they went into operation.
With the 6th Alarm they brought in the big boys with 4 of those 5 TLs being 95's - TL21 being the lone 75'.

Thanks for the information.

 

[enginecap]

They probably should have special called the battalion that?s expertise is fire duty.

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