11/5/26 Brooklyn 3rd Alarm Box 2634

My grandson works for the "U.L." =Underwriters Laboratory just south of Philadelphia in addition to being a Professional Firefighter. U.L. has just completed a series of tests and experiments with Lithium Batteries and has learned much, about what causes runaway reactions. But the extinguishment of runaway fires or actions to prevent exposed battery's from become involved is still a major problem. I heard about a fire chief in the Midwest who had a fire in a Lithium Battery Energy Storage Facility. Thew Chief had his firefighters pour bags of dry concrete over the batteries, and this worked to contain the fire. I told my grandson about this idea, and he presented this concept to his bosses a U.L., NO answer from any authorities on if this tactic is valid. I will keep you posted when I get more information about this major often deadly problem.
captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
10-75 Da Box! said:
Is this a class 3 or class 4 building? Size up was given as class 3, it's a wood/row frame though no?

In the old NYC Bldg. Code, these were most likely wood frame CLASS 4. (Usually row frames with a common cockloft. There may have been some brick nogging in the wall in the cockloft area)|
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In today's Bldg. Code they could be any one of the following -
  • Class II-B: Protected wood joist
  • Class II-C: Unprotected wood joist
  • Class II-D: Protected wood frame
 
QueensFireMedia said:
Fire Location: 653 58th Street @ 7th Ave
Size-up: 40x50 Class 3

BKD: Phone Alarm reporting fire in a PD @ 1:40
*Box Loaded due to calls

L109: Urgent: 10-75 @ 1:41

B40: All Hands on arrival @ 1:43

B40: Transmit the 2nd Alarm, Fire on all floors @ 1:46

B40: Fire on all floors of a 2 story PD, 2 L/S/O @ 1:47

B40: Water on the fire in the basement and the 1st floor @ 1:51

BKD: Staging 60th Street & 6th Avenue

B40: 10-45 NC x1 @ 1:51

D8: Make it x2 10-45s NC @ 1:57

D8: S/C 2 trucks (L157 act. L114, L172) @ 1:59

D8: AVFKD in the basement and first floor, primaries underway @ 2:03 (duration 24 mins)

D8: Transmit the 3rd Alarm, S/C 2 Trucks (L153 act. 149, L175 act. 147) @ 2:09

D8: 10-45 NC (total x3) @ 2:11

D8: x2 10-45 Code 1, x1 10-45 Code 2, x1 10-45 Code 3, x1 10-45 Code 4 (total x5) @ 2:17

D8: Primaries on all floors in progress, 5 L/S/O, AVFKD, searches being done in Exposures 2 & 4, DWH
x6 10-45s, now x2 10-45 Code 2s @ 2:22

FC: 10-2 the ARC (due to weather) @ 2:23

FC: S/C 2 trucks to command post (L119 act. L114, L111 act. 172) @ 2:24

FC: Primaries in Exposures 2 & 4 negative @ 2:26 (duration 47 mins)

FC: Still hitting pockets of fire, PWH @ 2:38 (duration 59 mins)

FC: Secondaries in Exposures 2 & 4 negative @ 2:42

FC: Assign Hazmat Trio for E-Bike fire (S252 HMTU) @ 2:44

FC: S/C 2 trucks into the command post (L170 act. 114, L146 act. 114) @ 2:51

FC: S/C 1 truck for FAST relief (L20 act. L147) @ 2:54

FC: L146 new FAST, L20 going to work @ 3:01

FC: Primaries in the building negative throughout, Secondaries in the basement negative @ 3:20 (duration 1 hr 41 mins)

FC: Secondaries are in progress on other floors, requesting ME @ 3:40 (duration 2 hrs 1 min)

FC: 1x 10-45 Code 1 (total x7 10-45s) @ 3:52

FC: Secondaries throughout will be delayed due to extensive overhaul @ 3:56

FC: x1 10-45 Code 1 (total x8 10-45s) @ 4:04

FC: Secondaries delayed, Transmit a 10-41 Code 1, x4 10-45 Code 1s, x2 10-45 Code 2s, x1 10-45 Code 3, x3 10-45 Code 4s (total x10 10-45s), Fire is Under Control, Requesting Watchline (E309 ,L168) @ 4:28 (duration 2 hrs 49 mins)

Fire Marshal Commander: Requesting Hazmat to pack E-bike batteries @ 14:36

B40: S/C one engine to relieve E214, watchline concludes at 18:00 @ 15:04

Exposures:
1: Street
2: Similar attached
3: Rear yard
4: Similar attached

Rundown MAYBE
E201, 241, 228, 247, 282AH
L109, 114, 148F, 149AH
B40, 48
R2
S1
D8
RAC3

2nd Alarm MAYBE
E242, 250, 240, E284 w/ ST3
L147, 157 act. 114 s/c, 172 s/c
B42FF, B32RUL, B33S
RB, SB, FC. RM
CTU2, TAC2

3rd Alarm MAYBE
E202 act. 201, 310 act. 282, 318 act. 242, 281, 279(comms)
L153 act. 149 s/c, L175 act. 147 s/c, L119 act. 114 s/c, L111 act. 172 s/c, L170 act, 114 s/c, L146 act. 114 s/c, L20 act. 147 s/c
B41FF
B31SAM
RAC1
C4, C12, C12B, C14, C23D, C90
MSU
HM1
HMB
S252H

Watchline @ 4:28
E309
L168

Watchline @ 11:00
E330
L108
B40

Watchline @ 15:00
E214, E220 s/c
L174

Relocations
E202/201
E318/242
E310/282
L153/149
L175/147
L157/114
E321/284
E221/247
L119/114
L111/172
L170/114
L155/170
L20/147
E227/281
E236/242
E206/279
E235/282
L86/172
L146/114
L101/147
L138/111
L132/109
L112/148
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nice job on the rundown.
 
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