12/21/09-- Bronx Box 3563/5th Alarm

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Car 4C transmitted the Fourth Alarm for a row of fully involved taxpayers. Multi Request above the 4th.
Location:291 E 204 St
Time: 0500
Outside Ops,Multi Towers being used. E262 with the IMT,MSU 3,Car 23 and s/c a 2nd Squad
Div 7 and Batt 27 were the first I/C's.
All Communications were through Field Comm 1.
Fifth Alarm transmitted for relief. 0905hrs
Multi T/L's in Op and Large Hand lines/Parapet Wall and Partial Roof Collapse. Extended Operation
0930 S/C--TSU 1 with SOC Dewatering Unit
Multi Queens and BKLYN CO's are working in the Bronx.
Multi EMS Units o/s, including RAC 3,MERV,MRTU, and LSU
Staging: Webster Ave/204 St--Heard Eng 210,237,257,258,299,307 operating at the BOX.
Above the 5th S/C--4 Eng's and 1 T/L,RAC 1 for relief  0942HRS
**NYPD also called a Level I Mobilization in regards to crowd and large amounts of street closure's.
 
stores in norwood again wondering whats going on up there 3 or 4th multiple involving stores there in the last year. and my luck this happens in the wee hours of the morning.
 
It's called, to be PC: "Urban Lightning" :-X  BTW, who said lightning doesn't strike twice in the same spot? This was pretty close as it was the same Box 3563 for the 5th on Nov. 4th. ::)
 
rdm258 said:
Car 4C transmitted the Fourth Alarm for a row of fully involved taxpayers. Multi Request above the 4th.
Location:291 E 204 St
Time: 0500
Outside Ops,Multi Towers being used. E262 with the IMT,MSU 3 and s/c a 2nd Squad
Div 7 and Batt 27 were the first I/C's.
Fifth Alarm transmitted for relief. 0905hrs
Multi T/L's in Op and Large Hand lines. Extended Operation
0930 S/C--TSU 1 with SOC Dewatering Unit
Multi Queens and BKLYN CO's are working in the Bronx.
Multi EMS Units o/s, including MERV,MRTU, and LSU
Staging: Webster Ave/204 St--Heard Eng 210,237,257,258 operating at the BOX.
Above the 5th S/C--4 Eng's and 1 T/L  0942HRS
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Wow, that's gotta be some trek for E257 especially with all the snow :o
 
http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,4141.0.html
The link to the Fifth Alarm in Oct.
 
Hey Old Timer's aka (Senior Members),
  Would this fire been a perfect example of when the Super Pumper can and would of been used. Just curious. Thanks. RD
 
Any update on this I've been at work since 5 am, and will there be a watch line for this I might go and check it out after work.
 
Last I heard it was u/c but companies were still haevily engaged, outside ops. 1100hr
 
Bill Tompkin's photos up.............
http://www.btfirephotos.com/2009/Bronx-12-21-09/10716925_dAJPs#746480937_Sdx5T
 
Based on the photos, the following units responded:

Engines 79, 75, 81, 45, 97, 42,92,62,48,90
72 W/S2 and 324 W/S4
TL 46, 33, 41, and 58
L 59, 52, 39, 56, 38
B27      Safety B
D7
Field Comm
E262 with ICV
MSU3
TAC1
MERV2
MRTU

E 324 with S4?????????
 
Courtesy of Ex Chief

Bronx,  N. Y.  12/21/09  @  04:30 hrs.

Norwood  Section



Box  3563

address:              291  East  204th  St.

Between:            Bainbridge  Ave.    &    Perry  Ave.



3563  @  04:31

Engs.  79,  62,  81

Lads.  37,  32

Batt.  27



10 ? 75 ? 3563  @  04:36

Ladder  56  is  designated  as  the  ?FAST?  Truck

Eng.  88

Rescue Co.  #3

Squad  Co.  #61

Batt.  15

Division  7



Fire  Building:

1  Story  Brick  40 x 60  Taxpayer

Surrounding  Properties:

Exp. #1:  Is  a  Street

Exp. #2:  Is  a  1  Story  Brick  100 x 100  FoodTown SuperMarket

Exp. #3:  Is  Unknown

Exp. #4:  Is  a  Similar  Type  attach



All ? Hands:

7 ? 5 ? 3563  @  04:39

Batt.  27  reports:    Box  3563,  Extra  Engine  &  Truck.    1 ? line  stretched  and  in  operation.

2nd  line  is  being  stretched.    Fire  in  the  basement  of  a  Taxpayer.    Using  All ? Hands.



@  04:39

Engine  75  &  TowerLadder  46  are  s/c



2nd  Alarm:

2 ? 2 ? 3563  @  04:53

Engs.  38,  90,  52

Lad.  38

Eng.  72  w /  Satellite  2

Batt.  20  ?Safety  Officer?

Batt.  19:  ?Resource  Unit  Leader?

Rescue  Battalion  /  Safety  Battalion

Fieldcom  1  /  Tactical  Support  Unit #1

Command  Tactical  Unit



@  05:11

Division  7:    Box  3563,  We  have  ( 2 )  Stores  involved.    Fire  extended  to  Exp. #4.

We  have  3 ? lines  stretched,  2 ? lines  in  operation.    Heavy  fire  in  the  basement.

Fire  is  Doubtful.



@  05:11

?Division  7  to  da  Bronx,    Transmit  a  3rd  Alarm,    We  have  fire  extended  into  the  Cockloft.



3rd  Alarm:

3 ? 3 ? 3563  @  05:18

Engs.  97,  45,  46,  52

Lad.  39,    Lad.  59

Batt.  18

Batt.  3  ?Staging  Manager?

Batt.  33  ?Air  Re ? Con  Chief?

Mask  Service  Unit #1

Car  4  ?george?    Assist.  Chief  Edward  Baggett

Staging  Area:    Bainbridge  Ave  &  Mosholu  Parkway  North



@  05:20

Division  7:    Special  Call  the  Hi ? Expansion  Foam  Unit.

Bronx  advises,    Hi  Expansion  Foam  Unit  o.o.s.



@  05:23

Division  7:    Special  Call  a    ?Foam  Task  Force?

Eng.  96  w /  Foam  96

Eng.  206  w/  Foam  206

Eng.  260  w/  Foam  260

Eng.  95  w/  Foam  95

Eng.  324  w /  Satellite  4

Batt.  12,  Batt.  52  ?Foam  Coordinators?



@  05:31

Division  7:    Special  Call  an  additional  TowerLadder:    TowerLadder  33  s/c



@  05:39

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 2 )  additional  TowerLadders

TowerLadder  41    &    TowerLadder  58  are  s/c



@  06:08

Fieldcom  1:    By  orders  of  Car  4 ?george?    Assist.  Chief  Baggett,    Transmit  a  4th  Alarm.



4th  Alarm:

4 ? 4 ? 3563  @  06:08

Engs.  32,  43,  92,  64

Batt.  10  ?Incident  Planning  Chief?

Eng.  262  w/  the  Incident  Management  Vehicle

Car  4:    Chief  Robert  Sweeney,    Chief  of  Operations



@  06:09

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  3563,  Car  4 ?george?  Assist.  Chief  Baggett

reports:      Fire  in  ( 3 )  Stores.    Fire  extended  to  Exp. #2,  which  is  a  1  Story  Brick  Taxpayer

100 x 100  SuperMarket,  and  into  Exp. #4  which  is  a  similar  type  attach.    Fire  thru  out  and  thru

the  roof.    This  an  exterior  operation.    We  have  ( 2 )  TowerLadders  in  operation,  ( 2 )  TowerLadders

being  set  up.    We  have  ( 4 )  hand-lines  in  operation.    Fire  is  Doubtful  Will  Hold.



@  06:18

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 2 )  additional  Battalion  Chiefs.

Batt.  17      &    Batt.  26  are  s/c



@  06:38

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  3563,  Car  4 ?george?  Assist.  Chief  Baggett

reports:      Continuing  with  the  exterior  operations.    Heavy  fire  in  the  Fire  bldg.  and  in  Exp. #2

and  Exp. #4.    Fire  thru  the  roof.    Operating  with  ( 2 )  TowerLadders,    ( 2 )  Stangs,    and  ( 4 )

hand-lines.      Doubtful.



@  06:52

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  a  Squad  Co.    When  they  arrive,  we  will  release  Rescue  #3  &  Squad Co. #61.

Squad  Co.  #41  assigned



@  07:16

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 2 )  additional  Trucks.   

Ladder  43  act.  56    &      Ladder  52  are  s/c



@  07:18

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  3563,  Car  4,  Chief  Sweeney,  Chief  of  Operations

reports:      Conditions  remain  unchanged.    Operating  with  ( 4 )  TowerLadders,  ( 3 )  Stangs    and    ( 6 )  hand-lines.   

Still  have  heavy  fire  conditions.      Doubtful.



@  07:43

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  3563,  Car  4,  Chief  Sweeney,  Chief  of  Operations

reports:      Fire  is  Probably  Will  Hold.    Still  operating  with  ( 2 )  TowerLadders,  ( 2 )  Stangs    and  ( 6 )

hand-lines.      This  will  be  a  prolong  operation



@  08:07

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 2 )  additional  Trucks.   

TowerLadder  51    &    Ladder  47  are  s/c



@  09:03

Fieldcom  1:    By  order?s  of  car  4 ?george?    Assist.  Chief  Baggett,    Transmit    a  5th  Alarm  for  ?relief?  purposes.

The  5th  Alarm  shall  consist  of:    ( 4 )  Engines,    ( 2 )  TowerLadders,    and  ( 2 )  Battalion  Chief?s



5th  Alarm:

5 ? 5 ? 3563  @  09:03

Engs.  76,  258,  237,  210

TowerLadder  160,      TowerLadder  146

Batt.  44,    Batt.  57



@  09:18

Fieldcom  1:    Progress  Report  for  the  4th  Alarm,  Box  3563,  Car  4 ?george?  Assist.  Chief  Baggett

reports:      Fire  UnderControl.



(  Job  Duration:    4 hrs.  /  47  mins.  )



@  09:42

Fieldcom  1:    Special  Call  ( 4 )  Engines    &    ( 1 )  Truck  for  relief.

Engs.  307,  299,    1,  23

Lad.  48








 
E326 with purple k was also assigned as part of the Foam Task force per the audio tape posted br R1SmokeEater
 
E62 called in the 10-75...they are 2d due...79/37?

From an eyewitness...

E48 third due...hooked up across the street and stretched into the cellar of the dentist office...E88 arrived next, stretched off 48 into the adjacent cellar...they both took a beating but company officers wanted to press on...when the super market was vented it blew up BIG...L56 (original FAST) put to work...chiefs went to outside attack early on...some first alarm companies on the scene till 10:00 AM...lots of three digit companies working or relocating...

What the hell is going on at 204th street??
 
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