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[grumpy grizzly]

^^^^ The FDNY QUAD's were extended length Pumpers with ground ladders & called just that "QUADs".....Combination Companies were a 2 piece Unit with an ENG & a Tower Ladder & one Officer (a CPT) .....QUAD's had regular ENG Fronts & CFCs had split colored Fronts (half Red & half Black) the QUAD's were from an earlier era & were around awhile the CFC's came later & were a failed attempt at cost saving's (Officer pay wise).

I think the CFC's responded together, engine and a tower, so you would have a tower on an auto fire and an engine on what would normally be a ladder response. You had two units putting wear and tear on their apparatus so you could save a captains pay.

 

[68jk09]

^^^^ Correct the CFCs always responded together with a CPT as the only Officer.

 

[Darrell]

Hyptcholetically, if there was no VN (lets say around the '90s or today, don't matter, if there isn't a bridge connecting SI and Bklyn, Bayonne and Jersey City Fire Departments have a better chance of running that call before Manhattan Companies even leave JC City lines. Brooklyn Companies wouldn't even be in the Holland.

I get this has nothing to do with the current conversation, just throwing this out there

 

[Darrell]

The quads were like an engine company with the additional compliment of ground ladders. I think they put them in areas where truck company coverage was sparse. WLF was the manufacturer, Ward LaFrance. I think they called them combination companies.

Weren't most Combination Companies (E255 for Example) phased out by the 1920's? But yeah you got the name right.

 

[memorymaster]

The WLF rigs referred to were called Quads. Combination companies were different and somewhere in this fantastic site is a thread on that I believe.