Third alarm at box 3164 for a row of five buildings involved in fire. Two buildings are vacant with structural damage from prior fires. Other buildings are occupied. Numerous tower ladders special called, exterior operations, five hand lines and two tower ladders operating. Fire is on Washington Avenue and West 181 Street.
33-3164 on 5/2
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East Tremont, The Bronx, NY, 5/2/08
Adresses: 2083, 2085, 2087, 2089, and 2091 Washington Ave @ E180 st
Main Fire Building: 2091 Washington Ave
Originally reported: 2083 Washington Ave
Phone Box 3164 - Multiple calls for a structural fire
Engs. 88, 48, 45, 42
L38, L56
Battalion 19
Rescue 3
Squad 61
17:29 hours
2-2-10-75-3164 - Second Alarm on arrival from E88
Engs. 75, 79, 50, 92
E72 w/ Satellite 2
TL33, L37
L27 is the FAST truck
Battalion 18
Battalion 17 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 27 (Safety Coordinator)
Rescue Battalion
Safety Battalion
Tactical Support 1
FieldCom
17:30 hours
Battalion 19: Special call an additional tower ladder over the second alarm
TL31 S/C
3-3- 3164 -17:32 hours
Division 7: We're 10-84, transmit the 3rd alarm, we have 3 buildings on fire
Engs. 46, 82, 43, 95
L19
Battalion 26 (3rd alarm chief)
Battalion 3 (Staging Manager)
Battalion 39 (Air Recon)
Mask Service Unit
17:35 hours
DC7: We have multiple buildings on fire, getting multiple lines stretched at this time
17:37 hours
DC7: The staging area is Bathgate Ave and E180 st
17:39 hours
Car 12A (Executive Assistant of Safety and Inspectional Services) and Car 4G (Deputy Assistant Chief of Operations) are responding
17:41 hours
DC7: 4 lines stretched in operation, addresses are 2087, 2089, and 2085 E180 st.
17:42 hours
DC 7: We have 4 lines stretched, in operation. Searches delayed due to heavy fire load. We now have a total of 4 attacked frames on fire.
CIDs for 2087 E180 st:
20x50 3 story vacant PD. Fire damage in basement. Balloon frame, holes in walls on all floors. Exposure 2 occupied, 4 vacant with collapse potential - use caution
CIDs for 2089 E180 st:
20x50 class 4 Vacant PD. Structural damage throughout. Exposures 2 and 4 rear heavy fire load. Exterior Ops for all except minor fires. Priorities to exposure 2 and 4.
17:45 hours - Duration 19 minutes
DC7: At this time we have 1 tower ladder in operation, 5 handlines in operation. 5 private dwellings in a row. 2091 E180 St is the last building.
17:46 hours - Duration 21 minutes
DC7: Addresses are 2083, 85, 87, 89, and 91 Washington Avenue. 83, 85, and 91 are occupied. Heavy fire, 2 tower ladders in operation, numerous handlines, heavy fire condition
17:48 hours
DC7: Requesting another tower ladder to respond to the front of the fire building. We have an exterior operation at the main fire building.
TL58 S/C
17:49 hours
Battalion 49 is 10-8 in Battalion 19's response area
17:50 hours
TL17 acting TL38 is 10-8 in TL38's response area, assigned in to the third alarm
17:50 hours
TL45 is 10-8 in TL33's response area
17:50 hours
Car 1E (Fire Commissioner's Office) and Car 11A (Chief of Rescue Ops) are responding
17:51 hours
DC7: Have 17 truck come in off Washington Ave in the opposite direction.
17:53 hours
TL117 is relocating to TL31
E59 is relocating to E71
17:53 hours
Car 4G is delayed due to heavy traffic on the FDR
17:54 Duration 28 minutes
DC7: 6 lines stretched in operation, 2 tower ladders outside at original fire building and building to the right. Primaries negative at this time.
17:56 hours
BC39: Be advised we are 10-84 at Floyd Bennett Field, PD Aviation is checking weather conditions to see if we can take off. We have no ETA at this time.
17:56 hours
Fallback step 3 has been implemented in the borough of the Bronx
17:58 hours
E295 is 10-8 in E45's response area
E58 is relocating to E42
E35 is 10-8 in E95's response area
18:03 hours
E84 is 10-8 in E75's response area
18:03 hours - Duration 38 minutes
DC7: Box 3164, fire in original fire building has been knocked down, still have fire in exposure 2 basement. Fire in exposures 2a and 2b extinguished. Continuing to knock down pockets in exposure 4
18:04 hours
BC39: We are standing fast at Floyd Bennett Field waiting for changing weather conditions. No ETA at this time.
18:05
FieldCom: Notify ConEd electric to respond
18:07 hours
Battalion 53 is 10-8 in Battalion 3's response area
18:11 hours
L164 is relocating to L50
18:15 hours - Duration 49 minutes
DC7: Primaries in exposure 2b complete and negative. Rest of primaries in exposure 2 delayed due to fire condition.
1820 hours
FC: put a priority on ConEd electric, we have live lines down.
18:25 hours
FC: Special call two additional trucks
L37, TL41 S/C
18:27 hours
L37 was already assigned on the second alarm
L59 S/C
18:29 hours
BC39 is still standing fast with no ETA
1834 1 hours 8 minutes
FC: Progress report for the Bronx 3rd alarm Box 3164: Car 4G, Chief Baggott reports: We have 7 lines stretched in operation, 4 tower ladders in operation, with an exterior operation at this time. Main body of fire has been knocked down. Searches in exposure 4 complete and negative, still doubtful.
18:35 hours
Car 36B (Department Chaplain) is 10-84
1840 hours
FC: The original fire building is 2089 Washington Ave.
19:12 hours
FC: Progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports 4 lines stretched, in operation. All tower ladders have been shut down. Still an exterior operation knocking down pockets of fire at this time.
19:45 hours
FC: Progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports 2 handlines in operation. 1 tower ladder back in operation attacking pockets from the exterior. Fire is probably will hold.
20:05 hours - Duration 2 hours 41 minutes
FC: Final progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports: Fire is under control. Setting up a watch line. Have 2 engines, 2 tower ladders, and 1 battalion special called every 3 hours on a relief rotation.
Adresses: 2083, 2085, 2087, 2089, and 2091 Washington Ave @ E180 st
Main Fire Building: 2091 Washington Ave
Originally reported: 2083 Washington Ave
Phone Box 3164 - Multiple calls for a structural fire
Engs. 88, 48, 45, 42
L38, L56
Battalion 19
Rescue 3
Squad 61
17:29 hours
2-2-10-75-3164 - Second Alarm on arrival from E88
Engs. 75, 79, 50, 92
E72 w/ Satellite 2
TL33, L37
L27 is the FAST truck
Battalion 18
Battalion 17 (Safety Officer)
Battalion 27 (Safety Coordinator)
Rescue Battalion
Safety Battalion
Tactical Support 1
FieldCom
17:30 hours
Battalion 19: Special call an additional tower ladder over the second alarm
TL31 S/C
3-3- 3164 -17:32 hours
Division 7: We're 10-84, transmit the 3rd alarm, we have 3 buildings on fire
Engs. 46, 82, 43, 95
L19
Battalion 26 (3rd alarm chief)
Battalion 3 (Staging Manager)
Battalion 39 (Air Recon)
Mask Service Unit
17:35 hours
DC7: We have multiple buildings on fire, getting multiple lines stretched at this time
17:37 hours
DC7: The staging area is Bathgate Ave and E180 st
17:39 hours
Car 12A (Executive Assistant of Safety and Inspectional Services) and Car 4G (Deputy Assistant Chief of Operations) are responding
17:41 hours
DC7: 4 lines stretched in operation, addresses are 2087, 2089, and 2085 E180 st.
17:42 hours
DC 7: We have 4 lines stretched, in operation. Searches delayed due to heavy fire load. We now have a total of 4 attacked frames on fire.
CIDs for 2087 E180 st:
20x50 3 story vacant PD. Fire damage in basement. Balloon frame, holes in walls on all floors. Exposure 2 occupied, 4 vacant with collapse potential - use caution
CIDs for 2089 E180 st:
20x50 class 4 Vacant PD. Structural damage throughout. Exposures 2 and 4 rear heavy fire load. Exterior Ops for all except minor fires. Priorities to exposure 2 and 4.
17:45 hours - Duration 19 minutes
DC7: At this time we have 1 tower ladder in operation, 5 handlines in operation. 5 private dwellings in a row. 2091 E180 St is the last building.
17:46 hours - Duration 21 minutes
DC7: Addresses are 2083, 85, 87, 89, and 91 Washington Avenue. 83, 85, and 91 are occupied. Heavy fire, 2 tower ladders in operation, numerous handlines, heavy fire condition
17:48 hours
DC7: Requesting another tower ladder to respond to the front of the fire building. We have an exterior operation at the main fire building.
TL58 S/C
17:49 hours
Battalion 49 is 10-8 in Battalion 19's response area
17:50 hours
TL17 acting TL38 is 10-8 in TL38's response area, assigned in to the third alarm
17:50 hours
TL45 is 10-8 in TL33's response area
17:50 hours
Car 1E (Fire Commissioner's Office) and Car 11A (Chief of Rescue Ops) are responding
17:51 hours
DC7: Have 17 truck come in off Washington Ave in the opposite direction.
17:53 hours
TL117 is relocating to TL31
E59 is relocating to E71
17:53 hours
Car 4G is delayed due to heavy traffic on the FDR
17:54 Duration 28 minutes
DC7: 6 lines stretched in operation, 2 tower ladders outside at original fire building and building to the right. Primaries negative at this time.
17:56 hours
BC39: Be advised we are 10-84 at Floyd Bennett Field, PD Aviation is checking weather conditions to see if we can take off. We have no ETA at this time.
17:56 hours
Fallback step 3 has been implemented in the borough of the Bronx
17:58 hours
E295 is 10-8 in E45's response area
E58 is relocating to E42
E35 is 10-8 in E95's response area
18:03 hours
E84 is 10-8 in E75's response area
18:03 hours - Duration 38 minutes
DC7: Box 3164, fire in original fire building has been knocked down, still have fire in exposure 2 basement. Fire in exposures 2a and 2b extinguished. Continuing to knock down pockets in exposure 4
18:04 hours
BC39: We are standing fast at Floyd Bennett Field waiting for changing weather conditions. No ETA at this time.
18:05
FieldCom: Notify ConEd electric to respond
18:07 hours
Battalion 53 is 10-8 in Battalion 3's response area
18:11 hours
L164 is relocating to L50
18:15 hours - Duration 49 minutes
DC7: Primaries in exposure 2b complete and negative. Rest of primaries in exposure 2 delayed due to fire condition.
1820 hours
FC: put a priority on ConEd electric, we have live lines down.
18:25 hours
FC: Special call two additional trucks
L37, TL41 S/C
18:27 hours
L37 was already assigned on the second alarm
L59 S/C
18:29 hours
BC39 is still standing fast with no ETA
1834 1 hours 8 minutes
FC: Progress report for the Bronx 3rd alarm Box 3164: Car 4G, Chief Baggott reports: We have 7 lines stretched in operation, 4 tower ladders in operation, with an exterior operation at this time. Main body of fire has been knocked down. Searches in exposure 4 complete and negative, still doubtful.
18:35 hours
Car 36B (Department Chaplain) is 10-84
1840 hours
FC: The original fire building is 2089 Washington Ave.
19:12 hours
FC: Progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports 4 lines stretched, in operation. All tower ladders have been shut down. Still an exterior operation knocking down pockets of fire at this time.
19:45 hours
FC: Progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports 2 handlines in operation. 1 tower ladder back in operation attacking pockets from the exterior. Fire is probably will hold.
20:05 hours - Duration 2 hours 41 minutes
FC: Final progress report for Box 3164: Car 4G reports: Fire is under control. Setting up a watch line. Have 2 engines, 2 tower ladders, and 1 battalion special called every 3 hours on a relief rotation.
anesti caught multiple videos of this box on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/anesti
Fox News also has Amateur Video posted
45 truck never went into the third; however partway through the incident another box was transmitted (I believe by Division 7) at the Metro-North station just south of the fire, and they were assigned to that box (they were acting TL33).
Fox News also has Amateur Video posted
johnd248 said:
45 truck never went into the third; however partway through the incident another box was transmitted (I believe by Division 7) at the Metro-North station just south of the fire, and they were assigned to that box (they were acting TL33).
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Well I'm happy to see that TL-17 got in there. Back in the old days, L-38 would relocate down to L-17. Wow, how things have changed. :
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Look up some old pre 1964 South Bronx 2100 to 2300 boxes and see everybody relocating to L-17. Truck companies like 19, 28, 29, 38, 43 & 49 even though they may have been busier. 
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ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALARM BOX CARDS? oR ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN 1964?
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Both, I remeber a couple of big fires in the early 60's where L-38 backed into L-17's house.
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wow how times change. when did L38 get a tower ladder
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I was talking pre-tower ladder days, when they both had 1953 ALF tillers.
Remember back then there was no Tower Ladder 58 or even Ladders 56 & 59! Ladder 37 came down to 184 St on the box, Ladder 36 responded 2nd due to Andrews Ave & West 183 St. Ladder 27 went from the Harlem River to almost Boston Rd on the box! Yes, Ladder 38 first alarm was larger then too, but not like '27' ! Then when 27 got a job, 33 relocated to their quarters leaving that entire are open. I remember seeing 33 at Ladder 31 & 42's station. Now my friends, those were the day!!!!! Yes, at one time, Ladder 19 was in quarters with Engine 96 for a while.
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That's the period I'm referring to when L-17 was a "Key Company" and they didn't relocate on any box card but were always covered. If the run was north, L-43 would relocate to L-17; if south, most of the time it was L-19; east it would be 28 and on a couple of boxes L-49. This was in the 50's and early 60's.
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Just don't forget men that L27 had a second section 27-2 which became L58.
How about Engine 46-2 who became 88-2 & then 72!
Engine 41-2 became Squad 5
Here is a good question for you all - What was the only box that Squad 2 responded out side of there area on once it was indicated that the incident was a working fire?
Engine 41-2 became Squad 5
Here is a good question for you all - What was the only box that Squad 2 responded out side of there area on once it was indicated that the incident was a working fire?