4/3/23 Bronx All Hands Box 3592

[Hank]

Incident Location: 3569 De Kalb Avenue

Basement Fire In A 6-Story Class 3 80x100 H-Type Multiple Dwelling

B27: Transmit 10-75 Fire Looks To Be On Ground Level

B27: Using All Hands, Fire In The Basement Of A 6-Story Class 3 80x100 H-Type Multiple Dwelling, 1 L/S, Primary Searches Underway, Trucks Opening Up, DWH. (Duration 10 Min)

Exposures:
1: Street
2: Street
3: Unknown
4: 6-Story Multiple Dwelling.

B27: Water On Fire, Trucks Continuing To Open Up. (Duration 11 Min)

B27: Primary Searches On First Floor & All Floors Above Complete & Negative. Primaries In Fire Apartment Are Still Underway. (Duration 13 Min)

D7: 10-84 At The Box (23:21 Hours)

D7: Extra 1&1 (E48/L46)

D7: (1) 10-45 Code 3

D7: (1) Additional 10-45 Code 4

D7: Under Control (Duration 37 Min)

Rundown:
E62,E79,E63,E81,E48 s/c
L32,L37,L39F,L46 s/c
B27,B15
D7
R3
SQ61
RAC3

Relocations:
L27 Acting L32
E42 Acting E63
L47 Acting L39
L17 Acting L46
B17 Acting B15

 

[Signal73]

Normal Assignment for Box 3592

E-63,62,79,81
L-39,32,37F
B-27,19

But indeed the 1-5 was 10-84

 

[8060rock]

D7: extra E/T (E48 & L46)

D7: (1) 10-45 Code 3

D7: UC (Duration 37 min.)

D7: (1) add'l 10-45 Code 4

L27 act. L32
E42 act. E63
L47 act. L39
L17 act. L46
B17 act. B15

 

[Extra One & One]

Normal Assignment for Box 3592

E-63,62,79,81
L-39,32,37F
B-27,19

But indeed the 1-5 was 10-84

That is indeed a strange assignment. I don’t recall ever seeing a first due engine & ladder coming out of the same house as a battalion chief, but the battalion isn’t assigned even as the 10-75 chief. 🤔

 

[Signal73]

That is indeed a strange assignment. I don’t recall ever seeing a first due engine & ladder coming out of the same house as a battalion chief, but the battalion isn’t assigned even as the 10-75 chief. 🤔

I said the same thing

 

[Extra One & One]

That doesn’t make sense logistically. If an engine and a ladder (stationed with a battalion) can arrive first at a location, then that has to be closest battalion. But the battalion comes from the second due station along with the second due engine and ladder. Well, ok, maybe it’s a border box. But then the battalion isn’t the regularly assigned 10-75 chief. That’s very odd!

 

[1951truck]

79/37 first due, followed by 62/32

 

[Signal73]

79/37 first due, followed by 62/32

Was there other activity?

 

[8060rock]

The original assignment was for Box 3580, Box number must have been changed at some point, though both numbers were used at different times with no mention from the BxD - confusing!!

 

[3511]

79/37 first due, followed by 62/32

Box 3592. Do the mileage...BN15 = 2.2 miles, BN27 = 1.3. Other boxes had to be out to get 63/39 1st due at 3592.

Depending on which route taken, virtually a dead heat btw 62 and 79, but 62 traditionally assigned 1st due. L39 was 2d due from their old quarters (same mileage but easier run than L37)

New quarters, BARB, streets Re-routed,...things do change. And don’t forget BARB only recognizes the actual street direction, not allowing for units to go against traffic out of quarters or into a fire block. Those loop arounds can be crucial in adding that tenth of a mile that skews the old assignment cards.

Box 3580 DeKalb at gun hill rd.

62 79 81. 32 37 46. BN 27 Different animal.

 

[Extra One & One]

Okay, thank you. No it’s starting to make sense! 👍

 

[Bdubbs]

Normal Assignment for Box 3592

E-63,62,79,81
L-39,32,37F
B-27,19

But indeed the 1-5 was 10-84

The 15 is all hand Chief at this box not the 19

 

[Bdubbs]

The 15 is all hand Chief at this box not the 19

And it’s 62,79,63,81
32,37,39f,46

 

[Signal73]

Thanks Brian.

I have an outdated assignment card

Question on my old card... Why would 63-39 be first due and the 15 not on it

 

[Signal73]

Question on my old card... Why would 63-39 be first due and the 15 not on it

Maybe this was when the new fire house was being built