5/7/26 Staten Island 3rd Alarm Box 8132

Having worked for over 20 years in FDNY in busy Tower Ladders the photograph (Above) is one of the few I ever saw a Tower Ladder bucket placed inside a doorway. The only other time I ever heard of it was a story by FDNY Deputy Chief Vincent Dunn about a Tower Ladder being positioned inside an Armory to extinguish fire in the roof and cockloft above the rig. Not generally a good idea to place any rig inside the fire building, but there is an exception to everything in the fire service. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
Peopel throw lithium ion batteries away in their recycling and soetimes it ignites in the recycling plants. A big problem for those plants.
 
Anytime a Lithium battery is crushed. burned, over or rapid charged, bitten by a dog, or even dropped from any height the danger of a "Run A Way" reaction exists. A Dr. Wu of the University of the Western Pacific determined that "Dendrites" can form with in Lithium batteries, causing them to shelf short out, if the Lithium batteries are over charged, too rapidly recharged or even chronically under charged. The Underwriters Lab. = U.L. has just finished testing on the dangers of Lithium batteries and formal presentation on the results of their testing should be published soon. There is an unverified report on the Internet that "Dry Bags of Cement" have been used to control a fire in a Lithium battery storage area.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
^^^ The above mention of "CHRONICALLY UNDERCHARGED" seems like it also would apply to a LION Battery "laying around " like between uses or awaiting disposal etc....any device no matter how small should be on a non combustible surface when charging as well as during a " laying around " period regardless of the reason why it is there.
 
Even the scientists examining Lithium batteries do not know why YET. But Lithium batteries that are used and then over and over again only Partially recharged again and again seem to develop a tendency toward run away thermal reactions. This is I believe still under investigation as far as I know. I am not sure a lithium battery just laying around can self-ignite, unless they are damaged or otherwise compromised. What you said about Lithium batteries, they should be on a non-combustible surface is true. Better yet in an area outside any building, and away from other combustible materials and other batteries. I have seen an online video of a dog biting a lithium battery and it ignites. I also have seen an online video of the Lithium strip from an AA Lithium battery exploding when thrown into a bucket of plain water. Lithium is water reactive. Lithium batteries are a real problem brothers and sisters. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
There’s a lot of fires there. And most of them don’t get called
In. Small rubbish fires. They have hoselines all over the place. Knock the small fires down. Keep everything operating. When things get away from them they call. And they get shut down and set behind in the interim. Lost $$$$
 
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I believe this is the only Job at this place that hasn't required more then a second alarm I may be wrong though. Back in 2019 (?) I believe, there was three jobs here during one night tour, the pit kept catching fire.
 
Darrell said:
I believe this is the only Job at this place that hasn't required more then a second alarm I may be wrong though. Back in 2019 (?) I believe, there was three jobs here during one night tour, the pit kept catching fire.
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This place has had many jobs that weren’t multiples especially lately.
 
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