6/11/23 Bronx 5th Alarm Box 3071

FFM1938 said:
Side question after watching both the response videos from Majesterium and Skyler: Just before all the tower ladders were up and running and command was telling whatever engine company was still inside to drop their line clear the top floors, it looked like TL41 had a hell of a leak shooting out of the side of their bucket supply line. Is that a designed overpressure release or a case of bad pipe section seals?
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Was it about 55 minutes in on John's video? Where he was by the BP station, with 2 towers side by side and an aerial to the roof? Haven't watched the whole thing just skipped thru it.
 
FFM1938 said:
Side question after watching both the response videos from Majesterium and Skyler: Just before all the tower ladders were up and running and command was telling whatever engine company was still inside to drop their line clear the top floors, it looked like TL41 had a hell of a leak shooting out of the side of their bucket supply line. Is that a designed overpressure release or a case of bad pipe section seals?
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Pipe seal, they weren’t getting enough pressure due to that. They went OOS once another 95 footer arrived.
 
Extra One & One said:
Good info about 421 & 422. As for RAC 6, there seems to always be a firefighter floating around in a Division headquarters so no need for a recall, but I get what you’re saying.
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On a Sunday Idk how much extra is on duty. Divisions have 2 Aides assigned and then 2 extra messengers that help with the command post at scenes. RAC 6 doesn’t have anything on it they would have to go to one of the RAC houses to refill. The RAC manager doesn’t carry anything
 
FFM1938 said:
Side question after watching both the response videos from Majesterium and Skyler: Just before all the tower ladders were up and running and command was telling whatever engine company was still inside to drop their line clear the top floors, it looked like TL41 had a hell of a leak shooting out of the side of their bucket supply line. Is that a designed overpressure release or a case of bad pipe section seals?
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Typically platforms and aerials don't have or need relief valves for master streams as what ever pressures that are created by movement are just pushed out the tip or the intakes ( as the device is bedded for example after the supply was disconnected) as the device is moved. Pretty sure the FDNY Seagraves don't have them. However, with the advent of putting smaller discharges in buckets, for roof lines etc, and remote operated monitors, any over pressure would dump thru the pump on that unit or the unit supplying it. The crew would still need to be cognizant of what they are doing to avoid blowing out seals on the aerial or platform if using a 1.75 off the bucket for example. Realistically it's not the best of ideas to put a gate or use it as an elevated stand pipe unless you can lock out the device in place. In some cases that's not always feasible for 1 reason or another.
 
Skyler Fire said:
super pumper wouldn’t respond to something like this…. The whole building would have to be fully involved…. It responds to 10-86 Signals and Special calls.
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It doesn’t respond to anything, as it’s not yet in service and there is no documentation yet on what it will or won’t respond to.
 
Skyler Fire said:
It was suppose to go inservice June 1st but went OOS. And it will respond on 10-86 and special calls that’s it.
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It looks as if that was a pretty congested fire scene. I wonder how close it could have gotten to the fire building and how effective it would have been?
 
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