6/20/21 Staten Island All-Hands Box 3468

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477 O’Gorman Avenue

Fire in a private dwelling 20x40

BC23 to SI: Give a 10-75 for Box 3468

TL-85 FAST

BC23 to SI: Using All-Hands. 1L/S, 2nd being stretched now. Primaries are underway.

BC23 to SI: Primaries are negative, fire in the shed is out. Checking for extension. Can we also get a response from Con-Ed, wires were affected.

Div. 8 to SI: Using AH for fire in a shed, 2LS, 1LO. Fire is KD in the shed, checking for extension into 477 O’Gorman.

PWH @ 03:03hrs, 21 minute duration

Div. 8 to SI: Under Control, 10-41 (4) for unknown cause. 26 minute duration.

Probably:
E162, E167, E165, E164
L082, T087, T085F
RS05, SQ08
BC. 23, 21
Div. 8
E159T SAT5
RAC5

Relocations:
E157/E167
E152/E165
TL77/TL85
L80/L82
E155/SQ08
BC42/BC23
BC31/BC21
 
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477 O’Gorman Avenue

Fire in a private dwelling 20x40

BC23 to SI: Give a 10-75 for Box 3468

TL-85 FAST

BC23 to SI: Using All-Hands. 1L/S, 2nd being stretched now. Primaries are underway.

BC23 to SI: Primaries are negative, fire in the shed is out. Checking for extension. Can we also get a response from Con-Ed, wires were affected.

Div. 8 to SI: Using AH for fire in a shed, 2LS, 1LO. Fire is KD in the shed, checking for extension into 477 O’Gorman.

PWH @ 03:03hrs, 21 minute duration

Div. 8 to SI: Under Control, 10-41 (4) for unknown cause. 26 minute duration.

Probably:
E162, E167, E165, E164
L082, T087, T085F
RS05, SQ08
BC. 23, 21
Div. 8
E159T SAT5
RAC5

Relocations:
E157/E167
E152/E165
TL77/TL85
L80/L82
E155/SQ08
BC42/BC23
BC31/BC21
Little ride for 2nd & 3rd due companies
 
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Seems to me that compared to prior years, in 2021, we are seeing an increase in the percentage of working fires occurring from Midnight to 6 am compared to other time periods with a decrease from 1200 hrs to 2400 hrs. See below:
Time Period10 -75 and Above
2013 to 2017
10-75 and above
2021 1/1 to 6/20
0000 to 0600 hrs14.00%20.00% +6.00 %
0600 to 1200 hrs20.00%21.54% +1.54 %
1200 to to 1800 hrs39.00%33.85% - 5.15 %
1800 to 2400 hrs27.00%24.62% -2.38 %
Total100.00%100.00%
 
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Seems to me that compared to prior years, in 2021, we are seeing an increase in the percentage of working fires occurring from Midnight to 6 am compared to other time periods with a decrease from 1200 hrs to 2400 hrs. See below:
Time Period10 -75 and Above
2013 to 2017
10-75 and above
2021 1/1 to 6/20
0000 to 0600 hrs14.00%20.00% +6.00 %
0600 to 1200 hrs20.00%21.54% +1.54 %
1200 to to 1800 hrs39.00%33.85% - 5.15 %
1800 to 2400 hrs27.00%24.62% -2.38 %
Total100.00%100.00%

Comparing five whole years (2013 to 2017) against less than six months of one year (1/1 to 6/20/2021) can explain that. It's like trying to compare last year to last night. The samples should be similar.
 
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Comparing five whole years (2013 to 2017) against less than six months of one year (1/1 to 6/20/2021) can explain that. It's like trying to compare last year to last night. The samples should be similar.
Agreed. So lets compare 5 months for the years 2013 to 2017 to the first 5 months for 2021. Pattern is similiar. I am using the NYC Open Data Fire Incident Dispoatch file to obtain the data.

Time Period10-75 and above
2013 to 2017 1/1 to 5/31
10-75 and above
2021 1/1 to 5/31
0000 to 0600 hrs6.80%20.00% +13.20 %
0600 to 1200 hrs25.00%21.54% - 3.46 %
1200 to to 1800 hrs43.44%33.85% - 9.59 %
1800 to 2400 hrs24.76%24.62% - 0.14 %
100.00%100.00%
 
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If this is NYC wide and not just staten island then I would say the fact that everyone has cell phones and the amount of people out during the day...especially the last year and a half being home all the time has contributed to those numbers
 
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If this is NYC wide and not just staten island then I would say the fact that everyone has cell phones and the amount of people out during the day...especially the last year and a half being home all the time has contributed to those numbers
I tend to agree with you. But these numbers are also including pre-COVID data. In my opinion it's cell phones. With cell phones being everywhere, people are able to call in fires even quicker, which then get controlled quicker, so no need for the 10-75 or All Hands. They arrive quicker and get it with 1 & 2 or 2 & 2 for example. But during the sleeping hours, not as many people are awake so the fire can get bigger before being reported.
 
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