7/17/26 Manhattan 10-76 3rd Alarm Box 881

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Signal73

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Fire Location: 520 Madison Ave

Fire in the ductwork in a restaurant on the 1st floor of a 43 story office building 100 X 200

B-8 All Hands

E-8,65,23,21
E-40(Lobby)
E-7(Comm)
E-33 w/ H.R 1
L-2,4,16(Fast)
L-24,35
B-8,9,6,2,11(Safety)
R-1
Sq-18
D-3
Rac-2
RB,SB
FC
RM
Tac-1
MSU

D-3 transmit a 2nd Alarm

2nd Alarm
E-3,26,1,34
E-9 w/ Sat. 1
L-43 Act. 2,7,3 Act. 24s/c,34 Act. 4s/c
B-7(FF)
B-4(FF)
B-45(RUL)
R-4
D-1
CTU-1
Car-6A(Deputy Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car-23A(Press Duty)

D-3 we have water on the fire. Smoke through the building. Trucks are opening up the ducts. DWH @07:33

D-3 s/c 2 trucks

Relief:
E-5,211 Act. ??,58 Act. ??,22 Act. ??
L-12,21,15 Act. ??,13 Act. 7
B-49 Act. ??,10

FC we have a gas fed fire on the 2nd floor

R1 & Sq18 re assigned

FC per Car-6A Transmit a full 3rd Alarm @08:53

3rd Alarm
E-238 Act. ??,262 Act. ??,80 Act. ??,16,54s/c
E-3 w/ H.R 1s/c
L-25 Act. ??,8 Act. ??,18 Act. ??(Fast)s/c
L-102 Act. ??s/c,146 Act. ??s/c
L-124(Vent)s/c
B-32 Act. 9s/c,12s/c
Rac-4,3s/c
Car-16B(Executive Director Fire Alarm Operations)
Car-24C(Assistant Director of Bureau of Logistics & Support)
Car-22G(Supervisor of Mechanics)

Special called
E-67,202,10,69,263(Comm)
L-149,26,131(Fast)
B-13,37
Sq-41

Special called
E-6,14,81
L-9,115,144
B-18,57

Relocations:
Engine 205 Act. Engine 3
Ladder 34 Act. Ladder 4
Ladder 3 Act. Ladder 24
Ladder 17 Act. Ladder 13
Ladder 146 Act. Ladder ??
Battalion 31 Act. Battalion ??
Battalion 32 Act. Battalion 9

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Having work as a Lieutenant and later a Captain in Midtown, many maybe 1/4 of the serious fires, in Midtown were and are related to duct fires. A full examination of the duct/s must be made from the bottom to the roof and any exposed areas above. Hoselines must be stretched to the point of origin of the duct and to the roof and often everywhere else along the run of the duct. Thermal Imaging Camara devises must be utilized. This includes and if available drones with Thermal Imaging capacity. One of the first things that must be determined is if the duct work system in attached to the exterior of the building or run up within any part of the building. I have seen the roof of the fire building and even adjoining buildings ignited by flame blasting out duct termination point, where highly heated fire gases receive enough air to ignite. Always examine any exposure buildings for possible fire for serious duct fires. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
captaindewey50267021@gm said:
Having work as a Lieutenant and later a Captain in Midtown, many maybe 1/4 of the serious fires, in Midtown were and are related to duct fires. A full examination of the duct/s must be made from the bottom to the roof and any exposed areas above. Hoselines must be stretched to the point of origin of the duct and to the roof and often everywhere else along the run of the duct. Thermal Imaging Camara devises must be utilized. This includes and if available drones with Thermal Imaging capacity. One of the first things that must be determined is if the duct work system in attached to the exterior of the building or run up within any part of the building. I have seen the roof of the fire building and even adjoining buildings ignited by flame blasting out duct termination point, where highly heated fire gases receive enough air to ignite. Always examine any exposure buildings for possible fire for serious duct fires. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
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I feel like until you have done it you don't realize how difficult it is to disassemble them at a job. Bashing them with the haligan just makes things worse but I would guess the battery dewalt FE saw is probably a great improvement.
 
07:00 Phone alarm reporting fire in a restaurant

07:04 Battalion 8 Transmit the 10-76 Fire in the duct of a restaurant, trying to check extension, All Hands on arrival

07:08 Battalion 8 Size up per CIDS Exposure 1 54th Street, Exposure 2 Maddison Avenue, Exposure 3 52nd Street, Exposure 4 an alleyway, 1 line stretched and operating, using all hands, primary searches underway

07:14 Battalion 8 We have water on the fire

07:26 Division 3 Transmit the 2nd Alarm

07:33 Division 3 We have water on the fire, smoke throughout the building, trucks are opening up ducting, Doubtful Will Hold

07:39 Division 3 Special Call 2 Additional Trucks

0801 Field Comm Car 6A DAC Corcoran Reports primary searches of the Nora and Sam stairwells are complete and negative, primary searches of all floor are complete and negative, transmit the 10-41 Code 1 unable to determine cause, Probably Will Hold, Special Call 2 Engines & 2 Trucks for Relief

0805 Field Comm Two 10-45 No Codes, Notification for Dept of Health restaurant name is Papillon Bistro and Bar

0811 Field Comm Three Additional 10-45s, Total of Five 10-45 Code 4s

0829 Field Comm Car 6A DAC Corcoran Reports secondary searches of the building are complete and negative, staying at Probably Will Hold

0840 Field Comm Car 6A DAC Corcoran Reports companies continue to flow water down the ductwork from the roof level, fire remains Probably Will Hold, Special Call 2 Engines & 2 Trucks for Relief

0843 Field Comm Car 6A DAC Corcoran Reports Fire Under Control

0850 Field Comm Orders of Car 6A DAC Corcoran Transmit a full 3rd Alarm

0852 Field Comm We now have a gas fed fire on the 2nd floor of the restaurant

0853 Field Comm Special Call another FAST Truck, original FAST was already relieved

0902 Field Comm Have Squad 18 and Rescue 1 report directly to the second floor to assist

0928 Field Comm Car 6A DAC Corcoran Reports they had a flare up on the second floor now knocked down trucks continue to open up fire is now Under Control, Special Call 2 Trucks

0935 Field Comm Special Call 1 Engine, 2 Vent Support Units, 2 Battalion Chiefs and 1 RAC

1022 Field Comm Orders of Car 6A DAC Corcoran Special Call 4 Engines, 3 Trucks, 2 Battalion Chiefs, 1 Squad and 1 Rescue

1046 Field Comm This box is going to be an extended operation due to the restaurant having the high rise built over it, companies are searching all sides of the restaurant checking for any extension, Special Call 1 Kutta Radio equipped Comm Engine

1049 Field Comm Have Squad 41 report in with their air hammer and cutting tips to cut the ductwork

1049 Field Comm Orders of Car 6A DAC Corcoran Special Call 4 Engines 2 Trucks and 2 Battalion Chiefs for Relief

1142 Field Comm Special Call Hazmat Trio for F500 Foam

1203 Field Comm Special Call 1 Battalion Chief and 1 Squad

1209 Field Comm Special Call 4 Engines, 4 Trucks, 1 FAST Truck and 2 Battalion Chiefs for relief, ensure one engine has a cockloft nozzle

1428 Field Comm Special Call 1 Engine and 1 Truck for the watch line

1524 Division 3 Battalion 28 is now your IC, they have their instructions they need to continue the watch line, using 2&2&2, appreciate your efforts in the CO for a tough one
 
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