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8/08/09 Aircraft Accident on Hudson River
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UNOFFICIAL report of a mid-air between a helicopter and a small aircraft. 6 souls on board small aircraft
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10-60 West 12th St and Hudson River.
Information beginning to trickle in. Check:
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/090808_two_small_planes_collide_over_hudson_river
Information beginning to trickle in. Check:
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/090808_two_small_planes_collide_over_hudson_river
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A helicopter and small plane have collided over the East River, police said.
Multiple casualties are being reported.
The two aircraft crashed near West 14th Street just before noon, with wreckage falling into the water and on land on the New Jersey side, witnesses said.
It is unclear how many passengers were involved. Witnesses said the small plane was a Cessna.
Witnesses said one victim was already pulled out of the water and taken to Pier 40.
The plane took off from Teeterboro airport, and soon reported engine failure. It then hit a helicopter over the river.
The helicopter was a member of the Liberty Tours fleet and offered flights to tourists, according to CNN.
Multiple casualties are being reported.
The two aircraft crashed near West 14th Street just before noon, with wreckage falling into the water and on land on the New Jersey side, witnesses said.
It is unclear how many passengers were involved. Witnesses said the small plane was a Cessna.
Witnesses said one victim was already pulled out of the water and taken to Pier 40.
The plane took off from Teeterboro airport, and soon reported engine failure. It then hit a helicopter over the river.
The helicopter was a member of the Liberty Tours fleet and offered flights to tourists, according to CNN.
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Video from NY1:
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/090808_two_small_planes_collide_over_hudson_river
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/new_jersey/090808_two_small_planes_collide_over_hudson_river
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This happened very close to Marine 1 fireboat John McKean
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There is a live stream of the rescue efforts on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.cnn.com/
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Pictures from Fox5News
http://www.myfoxny.com/
See Marine1 Alpha
http://www.myfoxny.com/
See Marine1 Alpha
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efd274 said:
I heard one survivor.
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Here's some of the radio traffic; it begins with a verbal from L5 at 11:53AM and escalates to a 10-60 at 12:11PM. First responding units are not known except as shown in the radio transmissions.
11:53 Ladder 5 to Manhattan, K.
Disp: Ladder 5.
L5: Yeah, L5, we got a verbal for a plane accident at West St & Christopher.
Disp: You said a plane, correct?
L5: Yeah. There's a marine unit out in the Hudson right now, you might be able to raise
them on the air.
Marine 1A to Manhattan?.
Disp: Marine 1a,K.
M1A: We're investigating some type of plane or debris down in the river out in across from
our quarters
Disp: We got it out as 14th St & the Hudson River; is that correct?
M1A: That's affirmative; right across from Crestview ST.
Disp: Alright, let us know. We're gonna send ya the box.
11:54 M1A: Be advised it was a helicopter that crashed into the water, and we have a debris field
here.
Disp: Alright, 10-4. Ya got a better location on the helicopter, K?
M1A: Be advised it's the Hudson River, just north of (garbled).
Disp: 10-4. Manhattan to Rescue 1. (no response).
11:56 Disp: Manhattan to Engine 22. (no response)
L12: Ladder 12 to Manhattan. We just got a report that Marine is on the scene and it's
closer to the Jersey side.
E22: Engine 22 is responding
Disp: Alright, 10-4, Ladder 12. Engine 22, you're responding?
E22: 10-4.
Disp: Manhattan to Engine 24?
E24: Engine 24.
Disp: You're to go to Marine 1's berth, and board Marine 1 there, K.
E24: 10-4.
11:57: Disp: Battalion 2 , we're also getting reports it might be closer to the Jersey side, K.
B2: 10-4.
Disp: Alright, verbal box 501, West St at Christopher St; it's gonna be a helicopter crash in
the Hudson River.
11:58: Manhattan to Marine 1A, K?
M1A: Marine 1 A
Disp: When ya getta chance, for the incoming units, can you let us know which way the
tide's goin', there, K?
11:59: NYPD Portable to FD?
Disp: NYPD portable, go ahead.
NYPD portable: 14th St & the Hudson, that's what we're looking at?
Disp: West 14th & the Hudson.
NYPD portable: 10-4, thank you.
TSU1 to Manhattan:
Disp: Tactical Support 1 go ahead.
TSU1: On your frequency.
Disp: 10-4. Manhattan to Marine 1, K.
M1: Marine 1
Disp: Alright, you're gonna be waitin' for E24. The're gonna show up at your berth and
board your boat.
M1A: Marine 1A; be advised we have one victim in the boat; advise EMS we're gonna be
dropping him off at the south side of Pier 40.
12:00 SQ18: Squad 18 to Manhattan.
Disp: R1, k.
R1: Yeah, we're waiting for M1A to pick us up, we can confirm a helicopter in the water.
12:01: M6; Marine 6 to Manhattan
Disp: M6.
M6: On your frequency, responding to box 501.
(garbled)
Disp: Division 3, go ahead.
D3: Alright, we have a confirmed helicopter in the water, one person outta the water, is that
correct?
Disp: 10-4.
D3: Alright, 10-4. Where is the location of the plane right now?
Disp: Alright, 10-4 D3. Manhattan to M1A.
M1A: M1A
Disp. Alright, uh what's the best location for this, for D3 and the incoming units?
M1A: There was a ladder company, I believe L5, if they go by L5, they can see everything
right from the shore.
Disp: Alright; L5, you're at West St & Christopher, right? (no response)
12:02 M1A: M1A to Manhattan.
Disp: M1A.
M1A: The debris field begins right in front of where the Circle Line is.
Disp: That's what, 42nd St? (no reply).
12:03 Car 14C (unknown assignment, but 14 series are Fire Marshalls) to Manhattan
Disp: car 14C.
C14C: On your frequency, responding to Box 501.
Disp: 10-4
D3: Division 3 to Manhattan.
Disp: D3.
D3: Yeah, let's see if we can get a location where we can set up a staging area close to
where the chopper is, K?
Disp: Yeah, 10-4. I'm trying to ascertain the location of L5; he originally gave us a verbal
for West St & Christopher St, K..
D3: D3, 10-4.
12:04 Disp: Manhattan to L5. (no response). Manhattan to B2. (no response).
B9: B9 to Manhattan.
Disp: B9.
B9: We'll take a ride over to the Circle Line pier with 4 Truck.
Disp. Alright, 10-4. That;s supposed to be where the debris starts.
B9: 10-4
Car 23: C23 (unknown assignment) to Manhattan.
Disp: C23.
C23: Responding to chopper in the water at . . . what's the exact location??
Disp: We're trying to ascertain that now. Manhattan to B2. (no response)
12:05 M1A: M1A to Manhattan:
Disp: M1A
M1A: Can you advise EMS that this 10-45 Code 1 that we have, we're offloading at Pier 40.
Disp: M1, you're going to Pier 40, the south side, is that right?
M1A: That's right, the south side. We'll be meeting SQ18, they'll be coming in.
D3 asks again where the incident is, and is told they're still trying to determine.
B2 calls in, and is asked where they are. They respond that they're at Pier 40. Disp asks
for any info on the 2 aircraft involved, how many people are involved, and if they
have any identifying marks on either one of the aircraft. Their reponse is garbled.
12:08: M8: Marine 8 advises they're on Manhattan frequency, responding.
B2 advises they have no known markings on the aircraft, and that aircraft size and # of
people is unknown.
12:11: Car 1E (Director of Public Information) advises they're responding.
D3: Transmit a 10-60 for the box, K.
Disp: 10-4.
Disp: 10-4. Announces 10-60 2nd Alarm for Box 501, West St & Christopher St, for a
plane & a helicopter into the river.
12:13: B2: The command Post will be on Pier 45.
Disp advises that B9 has no debris at the Circle Line pier; D3 advises to tell B9 to come
further south, down to the Sanitation bldg.
12:14 Marine 9 advises they are responding with a 30 minute ETA.
E7 asks where Pier 45 is
Car 4C (Dep Asst Chief of Ops; Logistics) advises Pier 45 is West Houston & West Sts,
they are 10-84.
D3 asks how many marine units are responding, Disp advises five marine units are responding. D3 says they don't have much debris where they are.
Units identified as responding to the 10-60, based on radio transmissions:
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D11
D14
B1
B4
B6: Safety Officer
B32: Resource Unit Leader
B33: Air Recon Chief
E7
E14
E55
E93
SQ1
SQ288
R2
R3
L1
L8
SOC Logistics
SOC Compressor
RAC1
Hazmat Batallion
Field Comm 1
Command Tactical Vehicle
Tactical Response 1
Remaining engines & ladders (including FAST truck), collapse units, SOC support trucks, Rescue & Safety Battalions & Satellite (if assigned as they would be for a standard 10-60) not identifiable through the radio transmissions.
12:19: Car 4C requests EMS forthwith to Pier 40, they have a 10-37 there. Dispatcher advises
that EMS has been notified of the location,
12:21: D3 advises to have all units respond to the south of Pier 54, the old marine unit's quarters.
Car 1E advises they are 10-84
B9 advises to put them on Box 501. They are at the 30th St Heliport.
12:26: B33 is 10-84 at Floyd Bennett Field, will advise when airborne.
12:35: D3 asks for a printout of all responding units, is told that FAA is confirming mid-air collision
and that there are reports of 6 people on the small plane. Advised that this is
unofficial report.
12:40 : D3 advises something about people on the helicopter, but is stepped on by other
transmissions.
AFTER THIS, THE RADIO GETS VERY QUIET, WITH VERY FEW MEANINGFUL TRANSMISSIONS. UNITS BEGIN TO BE RELEASED AT 13:05.
11:53 Ladder 5 to Manhattan, K.
Disp: Ladder 5.
L5: Yeah, L5, we got a verbal for a plane accident at West St & Christopher.
Disp: You said a plane, correct?
L5: Yeah. There's a marine unit out in the Hudson right now, you might be able to raise
them on the air.
Marine 1A to Manhattan?.
Disp: Marine 1a,K.
M1A: We're investigating some type of plane or debris down in the river out in across from
our quarters
Disp: We got it out as 14th St & the Hudson River; is that correct?
M1A: That's affirmative; right across from Crestview ST.
Disp: Alright, let us know. We're gonna send ya the box.
11:54 M1A: Be advised it was a helicopter that crashed into the water, and we have a debris field
here.
Disp: Alright, 10-4. Ya got a better location on the helicopter, K?
M1A: Be advised it's the Hudson River, just north of (garbled).
Disp: 10-4. Manhattan to Rescue 1. (no response).
11:56 Disp: Manhattan to Engine 22. (no response)
L12: Ladder 12 to Manhattan. We just got a report that Marine is on the scene and it's
closer to the Jersey side.
E22: Engine 22 is responding
Disp: Alright, 10-4, Ladder 12. Engine 22, you're responding?
E22: 10-4.
Disp: Manhattan to Engine 24?
E24: Engine 24.
Disp: You're to go to Marine 1's berth, and board Marine 1 there, K.
E24: 10-4.
11:57: Disp: Battalion 2 , we're also getting reports it might be closer to the Jersey side, K.
B2: 10-4.
Disp: Alright, verbal box 501, West St at Christopher St; it's gonna be a helicopter crash in
the Hudson River.
11:58: Manhattan to Marine 1A, K?
M1A: Marine 1 A
Disp: When ya getta chance, for the incoming units, can you let us know which way the
tide's goin', there, K?
11:59: NYPD Portable to FD?
Disp: NYPD portable, go ahead.
NYPD portable: 14th St & the Hudson, that's what we're looking at?
Disp: West 14th & the Hudson.
NYPD portable: 10-4, thank you.
TSU1 to Manhattan:
Disp: Tactical Support 1 go ahead.
TSU1: On your frequency.
Disp: 10-4. Manhattan to Marine 1, K.
M1: Marine 1
Disp: Alright, you're gonna be waitin' for E24. The're gonna show up at your berth and
board your boat.
M1A: Marine 1A; be advised we have one victim in the boat; advise EMS we're gonna be
dropping him off at the south side of Pier 40.
12:00 SQ18: Squad 18 to Manhattan.
Disp: R1, k.
R1: Yeah, we're waiting for M1A to pick us up, we can confirm a helicopter in the water.
12:01: M6; Marine 6 to Manhattan
Disp: M6.
M6: On your frequency, responding to box 501.
(garbled)
Disp: Division 3, go ahead.
D3: Alright, we have a confirmed helicopter in the water, one person outta the water, is that
correct?
Disp: 10-4.
D3: Alright, 10-4. Where is the location of the plane right now?
Disp: Alright, 10-4 D3. Manhattan to M1A.
M1A: M1A
Disp. Alright, uh what's the best location for this, for D3 and the incoming units?
M1A: There was a ladder company, I believe L5, if they go by L5, they can see everything
right from the shore.
Disp: Alright; L5, you're at West St & Christopher, right? (no response)
12:02 M1A: M1A to Manhattan.
Disp: M1A.
M1A: The debris field begins right in front of where the Circle Line is.
Disp: That's what, 42nd St? (no reply).
12:03 Car 14C (unknown assignment, but 14 series are Fire Marshalls) to Manhattan
Disp: car 14C.
C14C: On your frequency, responding to Box 501.
Disp: 10-4
D3: Division 3 to Manhattan.
Disp: D3.
D3: Yeah, let's see if we can get a location where we can set up a staging area close to
where the chopper is, K?
Disp: Yeah, 10-4. I'm trying to ascertain the location of L5; he originally gave us a verbal
for West St & Christopher St, K..
D3: D3, 10-4.
12:04 Disp: Manhattan to L5. (no response). Manhattan to B2. (no response).
B9: B9 to Manhattan.
Disp: B9.
B9: We'll take a ride over to the Circle Line pier with 4 Truck.
Disp. Alright, 10-4. That;s supposed to be where the debris starts.
B9: 10-4
Car 23: C23 (unknown assignment) to Manhattan.
Disp: C23.
C23: Responding to chopper in the water at . . . what's the exact location??
Disp: We're trying to ascertain that now. Manhattan to B2. (no response)
12:05 M1A: M1A to Manhattan:
Disp: M1A
M1A: Can you advise EMS that this 10-45 Code 1 that we have, we're offloading at Pier 40.
Disp: M1, you're going to Pier 40, the south side, is that right?
M1A: That's right, the south side. We'll be meeting SQ18, they'll be coming in.
D3 asks again where the incident is, and is told they're still trying to determine.
B2 calls in, and is asked where they are. They respond that they're at Pier 40. Disp asks
for any info on the 2 aircraft involved, how many people are involved, and if they
have any identifying marks on either one of the aircraft. Their reponse is garbled.
12:08: M8: Marine 8 advises they're on Manhattan frequency, responding.
B2 advises they have no known markings on the aircraft, and that aircraft size and # of
people is unknown.
12:11: Car 1E (Director of Public Information) advises they're responding.
D3: Transmit a 10-60 for the box, K.
Disp: 10-4.
Disp: 10-4. Announces 10-60 2nd Alarm for Box 501, West St & Christopher St, for a
plane & a helicopter into the river.
12:13: B2: The command Post will be on Pier 45.
Disp advises that B9 has no debris at the Circle Line pier; D3 advises to tell B9 to come
further south, down to the Sanitation bldg.
12:14 Marine 9 advises they are responding with a 30 minute ETA.
E7 asks where Pier 45 is
Car 4C (Dep Asst Chief of Ops; Logistics) advises Pier 45 is West Houston & West Sts,
they are 10-84.
D3 asks how many marine units are responding, Disp advises five marine units are responding. D3 says they don't have much debris where they are.
Units identified as responding to the 10-60, based on radio transmissions:
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D11
D14
B1
B4
B6: Safety Officer
B32: Resource Unit Leader
B33: Air Recon Chief
E7
E14
E55
E93
SQ1
SQ288
R2
R3
L1
L8
SOC Logistics
SOC Compressor
RAC1
Hazmat Batallion
Field Comm 1
Command Tactical Vehicle
Tactical Response 1
Remaining engines & ladders (including FAST truck), collapse units, SOC support trucks, Rescue & Safety Battalions & Satellite (if assigned as they would be for a standard 10-60) not identifiable through the radio transmissions.
12:19: Car 4C requests EMS forthwith to Pier 40, they have a 10-37 there. Dispatcher advises
that EMS has been notified of the location,
12:21: D3 advises to have all units respond to the south of Pier 54, the old marine unit's quarters.
Car 1E advises they are 10-84
B9 advises to put them on Box 501. They are at the 30th St Heliport.
12:26: B33 is 10-84 at Floyd Bennett Field, will advise when airborne.
12:35: D3 asks for a printout of all responding units, is told that FAA is confirming mid-air collision
and that there are reports of 6 people on the small plane. Advised that this is
unofficial report.
12:40 : D3 advises something about people on the helicopter, but is stepped on by other
transmissions.
AFTER THIS, THE RADIO GETS VERY QUIET, WITH VERY FEW MEANINGFUL TRANSMISSIONS. UNITS BEGIN TO BE RELEASED AT 13:05.
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Great job. Interesting that D14 was there, and R3 rather than R4.
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R1 must have been on another job.