8/08/09 Aircraft Accident on Hudson River
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raybrag said:
Yes, now I see it. I was reading through the summary and did not see R!1 listed.
Great job, Raybrag! A couple of points for clarification:
Re: M1A: That's affirmative; right across from Crestview ST. - I believe that this should read "Christopher" Street.
Re: M1A: The debris field begins right in front of where the Circle Line is.
Disp: That's what, 42nd St? (no reply).
...and...
B9: We'll take a ride over to the Circle Line pier with 4 Truck.
Disp. Alright, 10-4. That;s supposed to be where the debris starts.
A passing Circle Line boat was at the scene very shortly after the crash, and Marine 1A was refering to the debris field being at that vessel's location. There was initial confusion over the location of the debris field extending to the Circle Line pier at 42nd Street because Marine 1A's transmission was taken to refer to the pier and not the vessel.
Re: M1A: That's affirmative; right across from Crestview ST. - I believe that this should read "Christopher" Street.
Re: M1A: The debris field begins right in front of where the Circle Line is.
Disp: That's what, 42nd St? (no reply).
...and...
B9: We'll take a ride over to the Circle Line pier with 4 Truck.
Disp. Alright, 10-4. That;s supposed to be where the debris starts.
A passing Circle Line boat was at the scene very shortly after the crash, and Marine 1A was refering to the debris field being at that vessel's location. There was initial confusion over the location of the debris field extending to the Circle Line pier at 42nd Street because Marine 1A's transmission was taken to refer to the pier and not the vessel.
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I tried to reconcile all of the different reports telling us what units responded. I created a spreadsheet and in column 1 listed all units mentioned in the air communications listed by raybrag. In column 2, I listed all the units raybrag listed in his summary, and in column3 I listed all the units I saw in the pictures posted by Milford. Interesting to see the similarities and differences.
See attached excel spreadsheet.
Easy to look at printed out with the gridlines.
See attached excel spreadsheet.
Easy to look at printed out with the gridlines.
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I didn't list a summary of those units responding BEFORE the 10-60 was transmitted, and the summary of units shown AFTER the 10-60 was put together based on the radio traffic. In the case of one or two of them, the only traffic was "Manhattan, on your frequency" with no explanation of whether they were responding to the 10-60 or relocating as a result of it. There's also the problem on the archives of other boroughs stepping on the Manhattan transmissions (the archive I listened to has Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx & Queens, all on the same broadcast), especially after the 10-75 in Queens was transmitted, making it tough to know what else transpired. So, there are no guarantees as far as the accuracy of the information is concerned. In any event, it's nice to know that there's somebody else out there that has nothing better to do with their time than to try to analyze this incident.
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P.S. How about a link to the Milford pictures?
;D :P.S. How about a link to the Milford pictures?
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The Milford pix are on the entry page to this site. Here it is anyway:
http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/9211046_Xqj3M/1/615005028_8CQVy#615005028_8CQVy
http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/9211046_Xqj3M/1/615005028_8CQVy#615005028_8CQVy
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raybrag said:I didn't list a summary of those units responding BEFORE the 10-60 was transmitted, and the summary of units shown AFTER the 10-60 was put together based on the radio traffic. In the case of one or two of them, the only traffic was "Manhattan, on your frequency" with no explanation of whether they were responding to the 10-60 or relocating as a result of it. There's also the problem on the archives of other boroughs stepping on the Manhattan transmissions (the archive I listened to has Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx & Queens, all on the same broadcast), especially after the 10-75 in Queens was transmitted, making it tough to know what else transpired. So, there are no guarantees as far as the accuracy of the information is concerned. In any event, it's nice to know that there's somebody else out there that has nothing better to do with their time than to try to analyze this incident.
P.S. How about a link to the Milford pictures?
Yes, its called retirement. And yes, its great!!!!!!
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By the way, maybe others have additional or better information. If so please let mw know and I can update the chart.
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Yes, retirement is great, isn't it! ;D ;D ;D I've been retired from my second career for about 4 years now, and I'm having the time of my life. But the last couple of days it's been 100 degrees here in sunny Virginia, and I've been staying in the cool AC . . . with time to listen to archived FDNY stuff. BTW: thanks for the link. I don't often look at the front page of the site.
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I noticed one of the pictures showed Engine 3 repacking their hose bed. Why would any of the engine companies have used hose for this incident? There certainly wasn't any fire nor hazardous material spill that need remediation. I'm sure they had a need for it because the boys don't like repacking any more than anyone else!
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rdm258 said:
Hoboken has a small Avon rescue boat.
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rdm258 said:
Just remembered - Coast Guard was there, and NJ State Police helicopter.
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I'm sure North Hudson Regional Fire Rescue should have been there too.kfd274 said: