FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies

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Picture of Ladder 8 and Ladder 8-2, members in front of double company firehouse, funeral honors, BC John Rush, BN 5, LODD, runaway horse accident, May 5, 1912:

   

   
 
Yes it is 9-10-01 i can see it in the other picture this was the the tour that went into the next morning....the FF listed as the Can Man is Jimmy Curran a friend of mine.....in the infamous video of the Members investigating a gas leak in the street as the first plane fly's overhead into the  North Tower he is the fellow who on the video goes "Holy Shit".
 
68jk09 said:
Yes it is 9-10-01 i can see it in the other picture this was the the tour that went into the next morning....the FF listed as the Can Man is Jimmy Curran a friend of mine.....in the infamous video of the Members investigating a gas leak in the street as the first plane fly's overhead into the  North Tower he is the fellow who on the video goes "Holy Shit".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys41jnL2Elk
 
68jk09 said:
I do not really remember if this was a relocate by LAD*8 to 102 or an interchange ....more likely an interchange.....either way CONTINUED RIP BROTHER.....    http://postimg.cc/image/vt5ve5mhr/
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FF William Prange was a US Army Veteran who served in Vietnam before becoming an FDNY firefighter January 26, 1974.  He was assigned to Engine 13 which was disbanded December 16, 1974.  He was then one of 1100 firefighters who received pink slips June 26, 1975 during NYC fiscal crisis.  He was reappointed and assigned to Ladder 8, but lost his life at 30 years of age on December 9, 1976 while Ladder 8 was interchanging or relocating into Ladder 102.  RIP  Never forget.
 
Ladder 8 - Varick Street looking towards North Moore Street - 1914 and 2014:


First picture shows widening of Varick Street and building of subway - 1914 - Ladder 8 remodeled firehouse on right side of Varick Street.

Second picture same location 100 years later.


 
mack said:
Some guesses to your questions:
1.  Organizing E 287 and Engine 287-2 in different firehouses:  Both were originally organized in former Elmhurst volunteer firehouses very close to each other but too small to accommodate newly organized FDNY companies.  Maybe there was intent to have a two-section engine company when the Grand Avenue firehouse was completed and a double engine in Elmhurst became unnecessary. 
2.  Ladder 139 not organized:  FDNY could have planned Ladder 139 for organization at Engine 289 which instead got Ladder 138.  Maybe, Ladder 139 was saved for a possible ladder company at Engine 288, which never happened.
3.  Ladder 141 not organized:  Agree with your guess that Ladder 141 was apparently planned for Engine 292's firehouse.
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The original 1913 plan for new companies was once published in the World Almanac, which was based in NYC and used to list FDNY companies for local readers.

Ladder 133 was intended for 1196 Metropolitan Ave with Engine 206
Ladder 139 was intended for Main east of Irving, Corona, with Engine 289.  Ladder 138, originally planned for Fisk near Grand with Engine 288, went to Engine 289 instead.
Ladder 141 was intended for Thompson Ave with Engine 292.
Ladder 145 was intended for 480 Sheffield Ave with Engine 296.  Ladder 103 relocated there years later.

Ladder 160 was intended for 5105 Snyder Ave, Brooklyn, with Engine 310.  They went to Queens, but not before Ladder 174 was formed at Engine 310 in their place.

The original plan for engine companies had even more changes with Engine 296 planned for Brooklyn but winding up in Queens, and Engine 285 from Brooklyn to Queens, and Engine 290 from Queens to Brooklyn.  More after some additional research.
 
I think a lot of this may fall under the old  "the more things change ..the more they remain the same".....i remember "moves".."idea's".."suggestions" .."etc".."etc" going back into the mid 1950's (Take me back now) of which some made sense & some not but good or bad they changed radically w/change of Administration ..allotment of finance..political influence/pressure ...etc ..etc......JMO. 
 
CFDMarshal said:
Whose house was that? When did it close?
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"Rev", that was Engine 36, and I'm guess it closed in the late 80s (?). I'm sure guys can tell you when exactly that happened.
 
That firehouse was originally L14 & 12Bn  until they moved to the new FH on 3rd Ave with E35 & 12Bn
E36 was on Park ave and E126 St, That FH was closed and 36 moved the the FH on 125th St.
The FH on 125th st was one of those firehouses that the City got for $1 a yrs as long as it remained a firehouse so that prompted the job to move E36 in after L14 moved.    Hop this helps.
 
Engine 53/Ladder 43  firehouse  1836 3rd Avenue  East Harlem, Manhattan

    Engine 53 organized 175 East 104th Street                                      1885
    Engine 53 new firehouse 1836 3rd Avenue                                        1974

    Ladder 43 organized 240 East 111st Street at Engine 91                    1913
    Ladder 43 new firehouse 1836 3rd Avenue w/Engine 53                      1974

    Division 4 located at 1836 3rd Avenue at Engine 53                      1974-1979


175 East 104th Street (former quarters Engine 53):

   
   
   

   

   

   

   

   

    NYC Commission Landmarks East Harlem Firehouse 2008:

"Napoleon LeBrun & Sons? Fire Engine Company No. 53, a Symbol of New York City?s Growth in the Late 19th Century, Is Cited for Its Handsome Design, Materials and Details

The New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission today voted unanimously to give landmark status to Fire Engine Company No. 53, a four-story Queen Anne and Romanesque Revival-style building in East Harlem that was one of 42 firehouses and related structures designed for the City?s Fire Department by the prominent architecture firm Napoleon LeBrun & Sons between 1879 and 1895.

'This engine company was among the first of the handsome and highly functional buildings designed by LeBrun & Sons that set the standard for firehouse construction in New York City,' said Commission Chairman Robert B. Tierney. 'The building?s marvelous details and design remain intact, and recall the days when horses, and later fire trucks, charged out of the main entrance to save lives and properties.'

Located at 175 E. 104th St., Fire Engine Company No. 53 was constructed between 1883 and 1884, and covered the area bounded by Fifth and First avenues and 96th and 116th streets. The fire company moved into the building in January 1885, and responded to approximately 154 fires in the district during its first year of operation.

The building is currently being restored by Manhattan Neighborhood Network as a state-of the-art community media center. It is due to open in 2009.

The Fire Department commissioned LeBrun & Sons in 1880 to be the lead architect for a major campaign to construct dozens of distinctively designed firehouses as part of an effort by the FDNY to establish a strong municipal presence in the City, which was in the early stages of a period of intensive growth. The firm introduced such design innovations as indoor horse stalls on the ground floor and hose drying towers.

Fire Engine Company No. 53, a four-story brick building, is comprised of a cast-iron base with a wide entrance, and features decorative motifs such as torches, terra cotta sunflowers and sunbursts, and a pair of small pediments that are supported by corbelled brick brackets. The fa?ade is virtually identical to that of a former firehouse at 304 W. 47th St., in Manhattan, which also was designed by Napoleon LeBrun & Sons and was nominated earlier this year for New York City landmark status. A vote on the proposed designation is expected at a later date.

Napoleon LeBrun, the son of French immigrants, established his architecture practice in Philadelphia in 1841, and relocated it to New York City in 1864. The firm is responsible for a number of churches in Manhattan, as well as several office buildings, including Metropolitan Life?s headquarters at 1 Madison Ave. and the Home Life Insurance Company Building, both of which are New York City landmarks.

Engine Company 53 was used as a fire station until 1974, and is now owned by Manhattan Neighborhood Network."

    http://www.mnn.org/news/nyc-commission-landmarks-east-harlem-firehouse

Firehouse history:

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/lpc/downloads/pdf/reports/FireEngineNo53.pdf


244 East 111st Street (original quarters Ladder 43, current Engine 91, formerly Engine 91-2/Battalion 25):

   
   
   

   

   


1836 3rd Avenue (quarters Engine 53/Ladder 43/formerly Division 4):

   

   

   

   

Engine 53 apparatus:

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


Ladder 43 apparatus:

   

   

   

   
   
   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   


RAC 1 apparatus:

   

   


Ladder 43 members:

    1970s:
   

   

   

    Ladder 43 Centennial:
   
   


Engine 53/Ladder 43/RAC 1 videos:

    Ladder 43 vintage video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=13&v=mlk2t5Ge5Y4

    Ladder 43 rope rescue (2nd video):
    http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,3017.0.html

    Firehouse visits/responses:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsG4cHvPndM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mj1DoNTRJM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgnxmR0uA2Y

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Qpeq3ZtBc
   
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7pLvel7QCM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EAvXTQTfIo


LODDS:

    Lt. Thomas A. Bowler, Ladder 43, Manhattan box 1582, 1582 Madison Avenue, severe hand laceration, died from septic poisoning, injured January 2, 1934, died January 15, 1934

         


    Lt Louis W. Finger, working Ladder 43/detailed from Engine 64, Manhattan box 1292, 64 East 104th Street, smoke poisoning, May 7, 1954

         


    FF Julius Feldman, Ladder 43, Manhattan box 33-1405, 231-233 East 118th Street, blown out of 6th floor window while venting, August 31, 1953

         

         


    FF Leo J. Ray, Engine 53, heart attack, February 15, 1962

         


    FF Carmelo J. Puccia, Engine 53, Manhattan box 1236, struck by freight train after power off requested, Penn Central RR, January 6, 1970

         


    RIP.  Never forget.


Ladder 43 mascot 1940s:

   


Ladder 43 Centennial:

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/events/2013/091913a.shtml


Engine 53/Ladder 43 website:

    http://www.eng53lad43.com/


East Harlem/Spanish Harlem/El Barrio:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Harlem

    http://www.east-harlem.com/cb11_197A_history.htm









 
Engine 53 and Ladder 43 - R&Ws - busy companies:

   

   

   

   

   
 
Engine 53 was located next to the 23rd Precinct on 104th Street:

   


NYPD old 23rdth Precinct on 104th Street was also landmarked:

    http://neighborhoodpreservationcenter.org/db/bb_files/1999-28thPrecinctStationHouse.pdf

   

   



"The former 23rd Precinct station house was located at 177 East 104th Street, between Third and Lexington Avenues.

This station house was built in 1892-3 as a station house for the 28th Precinct. On May 1, 1898, the precinct number changed to the 29th Pct. Once again, on Jan 1, 1908, the precinct number was changed to the 39th Pct. It remained that until July 18, 1924, when it was once again changed to the 13th Pct. It wasn't until July 3, 1929, that the precinct number was changed to the 23rd Pct.

In November of 1973 the building closed, and the 23rd Pct. moved to new station house at 162 East 102nd Street. In 1974 the building was turned over to a non-profit organization, the Hope Community Center. In 1999, the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission designated the building and site a City Landmark."  - The Squad Room

 
Was on SILive.com and came across this picture. Not firehouse related, but certainly history and didn't know where else to post it:

SI Advance front page from 2/1977 about fire that killed 12 y/o boy, Firefighters save the 2 sisters. Also on the same front page, an article on a 2 alarm fire at Curtis High School that gutted the building and closed the school for some time.

Pic on front page shows TL in operation.

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/06/advance_historic_page_from_feb_45.html#incart_river
 
mack said:
SI fires above - SI 1977:

- No Division 8 - disbanded - Division 12 covered SI from Engine 242 quarters

- No Rescue 5 - disbanded - Rescue 2 covered SI - usually assigned on 3rd alarm

Elm Park fire:

- Engine 157/Ladder 80 1st due if available; Engine 158 single engine 2nd due; 21 Bn fire
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Also add that in addition to Fires before Haz-Mat was organized R*2 covered all of BKLYN/Staten Island  for Haz-Mat w/very primitive waders as protective gear & reference from a few lines in the yellow DOT guidebook & flew "seat of the pants"...no doubt that some of the ops/mitigation/disposal of materials back then all though well intentioned would result in litigation or arrests today.
 
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