FDNY DISPATCH STAFFING SHORTAGE.

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FROM THE CHIEF LEADER..... BY DUNCAN FREEMAN. ....UNION LEADERS CALL FOR 16 HR. SHIFTS.
At a City Council hearing last week spotlighting recent outages in the FDNY’s dispatching system, union leaders turned the focus to the beleaguered workers tasked with taking calls and dispatching first responders to the 1.8 million fires and medical emergencies that happen in the city each year.

Council Members called the hearing to get answers about several recent outages that have hit the FDNY’s emergency response system since the department’s computer-aided dispatch system, known as FireCAD, went online in 2021. According to a report assembled by the Council’s Committees on Technology, and Fire and Emergency Management, there have been three separate outages in the FireCAD system since it was introduced, for a total of just over 1 hour of downtime.

EMSCAD, a similar dispatching service but for medical emergencies, has had three separate outages in that same period lasting a total of four and a half hours, according to the report. That service was last updated in 2017 but the system as a whole is more than decades old, and wasn’t included in the comprehensive $22 million revamp that the firefighter dispatching system received in 2021.

The most serious shutdown of these dispatch services occurred Oct. 12, when, according to Jonpaul Augier, the FDNY’s deputy commissioner for dispatch operations, an outside contractor mistakenly pushed two emergency power off buttons in the basement of the department’s dispatch center in Brooklyn, thinking that the buttons would open an exit door.

The shutdown forced dispatchers to frantically use pencil, paper and telephones to get directives out to first responders as 911 calls came in, with some services not coming back online until late in the afternoon.

“Every primary critical system that was knocked offline that morning was immediately mitigated with a technical or operational alternative,” Augier said at the hearing, playing down the effects of the shutdown. “For as much as an outage of this was disruptive, it was a positive outcome that the systems in place performed as they did.”

‘Staffing is atrocious’

But since that shutdown, the EMSCAD system has suffered two others, according to Oren Barzilay, the president of Local 2507, which represents uniformed EMTs and their dispatchers. The shutdowns, however, are only half of the problem with the FDNY’s dispatch system, according to Barzilay, who says that there are simply not enough dispatchers to take in the number of calls coming through.

“Staffing is atrocious at the EMS dispatch centers. We are so short-staffed that callers cannot be accessible to operators,” Barzilay said at the hearing. The FDNY emergency medical services dispatching unit is budgeted for 450 workers, 60 of them supervisors, but Barzilay says that there are currently just 264 active employees working in this unit. Those workers are split into shifts, so the actual number of dispatchers answering 911 calls at any given time is far lower.

When 911 operators pick up a call and cannot reach an EMS dispatcher, the operators (who are employed by the NYPD) will instead automatically file a dispatch directly into the EMSCAD system. This automatic computerized dispatch system, Barzilay said, can leave out crucial pre-arrival instructions that EMTs need before getting to the scene of an emergency that they would normally get if they were dispatched directly by a human employee.

“Thirty to 40 percent of 911 calls [for EMS] go unanswered, they are just automatically entered by the police dispatcher,” Barzilay said, “so staffing is a major problem for us.” When call volumes are at their highest, EMT dispatchers answer between 200 and 300 calls an hour, according to Barzilay.

‘We power the city’

Faye Smyth, president of the Uniformed Fire Alarm Dispatchers Benevolent Association, testified at the hearing that FDNY dispatchers have been overworked as well. "Our staffing has been very short for so long,” Smyth testified at the hearing. “We have been regularly ordered in on our day off because we are so short-staffed.”

Smyth added that dispatchers she represents often work back-to-back 16-hour days, despite contractual requirements that dispatchers work four 12-hour shifts each week with specific days off.

“We power the city for fire engines, we care about our units in the field, we care about the public,” Smyth said at the hearing, “but my people have been doing back-to-back tours like this since the beginning of Covid.”

The FDNY is budgeted for 207 dispatcher positions, 197 of which are filled, according to Augier, the deputy commissioner for dispatch operations.

He testified that “the work is underway” to replace the dated EMSCAD system and that the FDNY expects development to begin in early 2023. Augier said the new system will offer “greater system availability, increased functionality, and architecture compatible with next generation 911.”

Without staffing increases, however, Barzilay feels that problems will persist. “We only have 30 to 40 people on the phone at a time. For a city as busy as ours, it's just unacceptable,” he said at the hearing. “Our members suffer PTSD from taking calls back-to-back-to-back. It's never ending, the calls just keep coming in and there's no manpower.”

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At a City Council hearing last week spotlighting recent outages in the FDNY’s dispatching system, union leaders turned the focus to the beleaguered workers tasked with taking calls and dispatching first responders to the 1.8 million fires and medical emergencies that happen in the city each year.

Council Members called the hearing to get answers about several recent outages that have hit the FDNY’s emergency response system since the department’s computer-aided dispatch system, known as FireCAD, went online in 2021. According to a report assembled by the Council’s Committees on Technology, and Fire and Emergency Management, there have been three separate outages in the FireCAD system since it was introduced, for a total of just over 1 hour of downtime.

EMSCAD, a similar dispatching service but for medical emergencies, has had three separate outages in that same period lasting a total of four and a half hours, according to the report. That service was last updated in 2017 but the system as a whole is more than decades old, and wasn’t included in the comprehensive $22 million revamp that the firefighter dispatching system received in 2021.

The most serious shutdown of these dispatch services occurred Oct. 12, when, according to Jonpaul Augier, the FDNY’s deputy commissioner for dispatch operations, an outside contractor mistakenly pushed two emergency power off buttons in the basement of the department’s dispatch center in Brooklyn, thinking that the buttons would open an exit door.

The shutdown forced dispatchers to frantically use pencil, paper and telephones to get directives out to first responders as 911 calls came in, with some services not coming back online until late in the afternoon.

“Every primary critical system that was knocked offline that morning was immediately mitigated with a technical or operational alternative,” Augier said at the hearing, playing down the effects of the shutdown. “For as much as an outage of this was disruptive, it was a positive outcome that the systems in place performed as they did.”

‘Staffing is atrocious’

But since that shutdown, the EMSCAD system has suffered two others, according to Oren Barzilay, the president of Local 2507, which represents uniformed EMTs and their dispatchers. The shutdowns, however, are only half of the problem with the FDNY’s dispatch system, according to Barzilay, who says that there are simply not enough dispatchers to take in the number of calls coming through.

“Staffing is atrocious at the EMS dispatch centers. We are so short-staffed that callers cannot be accessible to operators,” Barzilay said at the hearing. The FDNY emergency medical services dispatching unit is budgeted for 450 workers, 60 of them supervisors, but Barzilay says that there are currently just 264 active employees working in this unit. Those workers are split into shifts, so the actual number of dispatchers answering 911 calls at any given time is far lower.

When 911 operators pick up a call and cannot reach an EMS dispatcher, the operators (who are employed by the NYPD) will instead automatically file a dispatch directly into the EMSCAD system. This automatic computerized dispatch system, Barzilay said, can leave out crucial pre-arrival instructions that EMTs need before getting to the scene of an emergency that they would normally get if they were dispatched directly by a human employee.

“Thirty to 40 percent of 911 calls [for EMS] go unanswered, they are just automatically entered by the police dispatcher,” Barzilay said, “so staffing is a major problem for us.” When call volumes are at their highest, EMT dispatchers answer between 200 and 300 calls an hour, according to Barzilay.

‘We power the city’

Faye Smyth, president of the Uniformed Fire Alarm Dispatchers Benevolent Association, testified at the hearing that FDNY dispatchers have been overworked as well. "Our staffing has been very short for so long,” Smyth testified at the hearing. “We have been regularly ordered in on our day off because we are so short-staffed.”

Smyth added that dispatchers she represents often work back-to-back 16-hour days, despite contractual requirements that dispatchers work four 12-hour shifts each week with specific days off.

“We power the city for fire engines, we care about our units in the field, we care about the public,” Smyth said at the hearing, “but my people have been doing back-to-back tours like this since the beginning of Covid.”

The FDNY is budgeted for 207 dispatcher positions, 197 of which are filled, according to Augier, the deputy commissioner for dispatch operations.

He testified that “the work is underway” to replace the dated EMSCAD system and that the FDNY expects development to begin in early 2023. Augier said the new system will offer “greater system availability, increased functionality, and architecture compatible with next generation 911.”

Without staffing increases, however, Barzilay feels that problems will persist. “We only have 30 to 40 people on the phone at a time. For a city as busy as ours, it's just unacceptable,” he said at the hearing. “Our members suffer PTSD from taking calls back-to-back-to-back. It's never ending, the calls just keep coming in and there's no manpower.”

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Unfortunately this is very common throughout the country 911 centers and public safety comm centers in many places simply are having a difficult time recruiting and retaining new personnel. Broward county just recently increased starting pay for new comm personnel to that of a starting firefighter/paramedic in an effort to attract new people. Palm Beach county is advertising for 911 dispatchers on those mobile signboards you see alongside the roadways. Sad.
 
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We are in some serious trouble as these shortages of 911 dispatchers and call takers is a problem throughout most of the country.

In addition we are experiencing shortages of police officers, nurses, EMTs and paramedics, hospital staff, and even many of our frontline workers who we all depend on.

Even volunteer firefighters as well in some places.
For those considering a firefighting career, in some places being an active volunteer firefighter certainly helps

These are year round, steady jobs, with generally good benefits, and promotional opportunities, that offer many opportunities for those who apply and are qualified.

WE SURE DO NEED YOU....
 
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Yes, your observations are indeed true and for the most part occurring globally throughout the United States. While the pandemic changed the entire workforce dynamic, and there was 18 months of free government money for those making under 80k , those factors have generally evaporated for almost a year now. There are hiring shortages in almost every type of employment in our society. But as you stated. For decades, government jobs of all types were always highly coveted. The security, the decent pay, generally great benefits, and one of the only few employers offering defined benefits always produced a steady stream of new hires , and in most cases waiting lists. I completely understand that becoming a police officer is of little interest now to many who would have applied a decade ago. But that logically should result in even more candidates applying for the other types of employment in the public safety realm. I have a feeling that this should begin to resolve itself shortly. The banks and the tech companies are now laying off very significant amounts of employees. Inflation is not going away anytime soon. Houses are not selling anywhere near what they were a year ago and new construction is down significantly. I hope this problem of attracting adequate numbers of qualified candidates for jobs in the public safety arena begins to turnaround quickly.
 
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“Jonpaul Augier, the FDNY’s deputy commissioner for dispatch operations”….I remember the stir over how he got his job
 
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Thanks Tom "Captomo" for passing this along

Very sad that these conditions seem to have resulted in a baby's life.
 

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There is a national problem with a shortage of EMTs and paramedics - probably due to low wages, COVID policies, high stress job requirements and political policies which demotivate people to work. EMTs earn much less than other medical providers and less than firefighters. The CBS report below highlights the US shortage of EMTs.


CBS EVENING NEWS

U.S. faces shortage of EMTs, nearly one-third quit in 2021​

evening-news
BY CARTER EVANS, SIMON BOUIE
DECEMBER 22, 2022 / 7:03 PM / CBS NEWS


Nearly every industry has dealt with staffing shortages since the start of the pandemic, but few occupations can mean the difference between life and death like that of an EMT. But for many, low wages are forcing EMTs out of their jobs.

Deniece Farnsworth told CBS News that after seven years she's not sure how much longer she can afford to keep doing her job as an EMT. Her current pay is $18 an hour.

"To pay the bills, we have to work as much as we can," she said.

Farnsworth actually makes slightly more than the national median average for EMTs which is $17.05 per hour. That translates into $35,470 per year. The Bureau of Labor Statistics lists it as one of the lowest-paying jobs in health care. Low pay was the primary reason roughly one-third of all EMTs quit in 2021.

The industry is having a hard time replacing them.


A 2022 American Ambulance Association study of employee turnover found that 39% of part-time EMT and 55% of part-time paramedic positions went unfilled because of a lack of qualified candidates.

"It's an absolute crisis. We have continual paramedics hitting the exit doors and leaving the field," said American Ambulance Association president Shawn Baird.

He added that Medicaid's reimbursement for non-emergency transports, like moving a patient between hospitals or taking someone to dialysis, keeps wages low.

"It can mean the difference of having an ambulance or not having an ambulance," Baird said.


AMR, the nation's largest private ambulance provider, announced it's ending non-emergency transport in Los Angeles County. The company cites low Medicaid reimbursement as a major reason for a $3.5 million budget deficit in that market alone.

Amwest Ambulance Director of Operations Brian Napoli said that to keep from losing EMTs like Farnsworth, the company is moving to give employees a raise. But they can't afford it long-term, he told CBS News, that if Medicaid reimbursements don't increase, Amwest may also have to stop non-emergency services.

Napoli said it costs the company more than $250 for an average non-emergency transport call. However, their Medicaid reimbursement is just $107.

California recently passed a law that could require a $22-an-hour minimum wage for fast food workers. However, there is no mandated pay for EMTs.

 

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Not just FDNY - this October 2022 article highlights the national problem of 911 call centers - similar to national EMS shortages.


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‘THE CALL CENTER IS GOING TO COLLAPSE.’ 9-1-1 OPERATOR SYAS MANY ARE AT THEIR BREAKING POINT​

October 19, 2022

EDITORS NOTE: This story is about one city. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of locations throughout the United States where this scenario plays out every day, every shift.

AUSTIN (KXAN) — Long waits continue for 911 callers as cries for help are now becoming more urgent.

KXAN has received multiple emails from people who have called 911 but had to wait for a response. Some callers told KXAN they had to wait five minutes or longer for an answer.

Josh Mitford saw a bad accident on Interstate 35 and dialed 911 for help, but he too had to wait.

“It took almost five-and-a-half minutes to get an operator on the phone from the time I dialed,” said Mitford. “You don’t expect that when you call 911. You expect someone to immediately pick up.”

“Every day, it is happening every day,” said a 911 call taker who wished to remain anonymous.

‘I waited 5 minutes’: 911 callers concerned after delayed response for emergency calls

The Austin Police Department is still seeing a major staffing shortage with 911 call-takers and dispatchers. The department is down 23 dispatchers out of 75 allotted staff and down 49 operators out of an allotted 105 positions.

“If we continue to lose call-takers, the call center is going to collapse and we won’t be able to provide any emergency services,” said a 911 call-taker. “A lot of people have gotten to the point where they are too burned out and they left.”

Starting pay was about $18 and increased recently, but the 911 operator told us there are other nearby counties that offer more.

“To try to attract more people, our pay has to be competitive,” said the 911 operator. “Twenty-two and $24 an hour is not competitive in this region anymore.”

KXAN reached out to Williamson County to see what staffing and pay looked like. It told us it has 60 telecommunicator positions with eight vacancies.

After a recent cost of living increase, the starting hourly rate for a telecommunicator, who handles receiving calls and dispatching, is $27.54 an hour.

‘Someone is eventually going to die waiting on hold for Austin 911’: Pressure builds for 911 operator staffing

“A core government service is responding to your emergency calls, and we are not doing that at the level we need to in our city,” said Austin City councilmember Alison Alter.

Alter said she has been highlighting the issue for more than a year and something should have been done sooner.

“We are hoping some of the adjustments we made, we just made some in the last budget will help, but I think management needs to lean in and that is not just APD, it is also HR and the city manager,” said Alter.

In August, APD lowered the minimum number of 911 call-takers required per shift to help alleviate the stress of staff shortages.

As a short-term solution to ongoing staff shortages at the APD 911 call center, the department is allowing sworn employees to work overtime to answer calls. The operator we spoke to said it has helped some, but they need even more help to handle the call volume, especially during busy times.



 

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Same 911 problem in Pennsylvania - county director claims "people just don't want to work"

Shortage of 911 operators within the commonwealth, struggle to fill those positions​


by Taylor Whartnaby
Tuesday, October 4th 2022

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MONROE COUNTY (WOLF) — When you call 911 you expect there to be a dispatcher on the phone within seconds - while that may be the case - there's a struggle right now to fill those positions in our area

Gary Hoffman, Director of communications at Monroe County Control Center , has worked as a dispatcher and a volunteer firefighter. He tells me that these workers are the first call when an emergency takes place and they are truly saving lives. However, there are just not enough people filling the positions

“Back in the 70’s and 80’s, when we would have 2 or 3 openings, we would get 50 to 60 applicants. Today, we get 15 applicants. Its’s just the whole job thing, people just don’t want to work. This is night, weekends, these are holidays. They are paid well to work that but still some people are not in a mindset that they have to work a weekend. It is what it is.”

“It’s high stress, you have to get it right every time, there’s no room for error. People can die.”

Hoffman tells me that not only in Monroe County are they struggling to find workers to fill those spots, but also all around the commonwealth.

Dispatchers in the Monroe location dispatch and answer all calls - they do not transfer calls unless it's to contact state police.

The number of calls depends on the day, including if there are events in the area or bad weather conditions. On average, The center receives around 1,000 calls a day.

It takes training to serve as a dispatcher- part of that training is learning to answer the call within 3 rings.

“You want the right person sitting on that phone and talking on the radio that has a calming voice, can’t show their emotions, there’s a lot of emotions, a lot of passion. But you have to keep a monotone voice, keep it going and get the critical information that’s needed so you can make a determination of what is needed to send to that situation.”

Al Kearney, director of 911 at Lackawanna County Center for Public Safety tells me that the operators they have now are working overtime.
“There's overtime everyday here at the center and their working multiple extra shifts a week to cover and be here for the residents of the county.

We train and do three classes a year to try and get people, and they hang in there. Unfortunately, we do lose some and we gain some, as we gain, we lose. It’s a battle we battle every day.”

“We appreciate the ones that work here, and they do a great job, their hardworking, and very knowledgeable. Were lucky to have the ones we have.”

To find out more about the job opportunities, follow these links:

https://www.monroeco911.com/

https://www.lackawannacounty.org/government/departments/human_resources/employment.php



 
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There is a national problem with a shortage of EMTs and paramedics - probably due to low wages, COVID policies, high stress job requirements and political policies which demotivate people to work. EMTs earn much less than other medical providers and less than firefighters. The CBS report below highlights the US shortage of EMTs.

CBS EVENING NEWS

U.S. faces shortage of EMTs, nearly one-third quit in 2021​

evening-news
BY CARTER EVANS, SIMON BOUIE
DECEMBER 22, 2022 / 7:03 PM / CBS NEWS


Nearly every industry has dealt with staffing shortages since the start of the pandemic, but few occupations can mean the difference between life and death like that of an EMT. But for many, low wages are forcing EMTs out of their jobs.

Deniece Farnsworth told CBS News that after seven years she's not sure how much longer she can afford to keep doing her job as an EMT. Her current pay is $18 an hour.

"To pay the bills, we have to work as much as we can," she said.

Farnsworth actually makes slightly more than the national median average for EMTs which is $17.05 per hour. That translates into $35,470 per year. The Bureau of Labor Statistics lists it as one of the lowest-paying jobs in health care. Low pay was the primary reason roughly one-third of all EMTs quit in 2021.

The industry is having a hard time replacing them.


A 2022 American Ambulance Association study of employee turnover found that 39% of part-time EMT and 55% of part-time paramedic positions went unfilled because of a lack of qualified candidates.

"It's an absolute crisis. We have continual paramedics hitting the exit doors and leaving the field," said American Ambulance Association president Shawn Baird.

He added that Medicaid's reimbursement for non-emergency transports, like moving a patient between hospitals or taking someone to dialysis, keeps wages low.

"It can mean the difference of having an ambulance or not having an ambulance," Baird said.


AMR, the nation's largest private ambulance provider, announced it's ending non-emergency transport in Los Angeles County. The company cites low Medicaid reimbursement as a major reason for a $3.5 million budget deficit in that market alone.

Amwest Ambulance Director of Operations Brian Napoli said that to keep from losing EMTs like Farnsworth, the company is moving to give employees a raise. But they can't afford it long-term, he told CBS News, that if Medicaid reimbursements don't increase, Amwest may also have to stop non-emergency services.

Napoli said it costs the company more than $250 for an average non-emergency transport call. However, their Medicaid reimbursement is just $107.

California recently passed a law that could require a $22-an-hour minimum wage for fast food workers. However, there is no mandated pay for EMTs.

Yes crap Pay, No Retierement and the list goes on! Like EMS calls we should NOT have to go to or be able to treat in place but NYS is so far behind!
 
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Same 911 problem in Pennsylvania - county director claims "people just don't want to work"

Shortage of 911 operators within the commonwealth, struggle to fill those positions​


by Taylor Whartnaby
Tuesday, October 4th 2022

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MONROE COUNTY (WOLF) — When you call 911 you expect there to be a dispatcher on the phone within seconds - while that may be the case - there's a struggle right now to fill those positions in our area

Gary Hoffman, Director of communications at Monroe County Control Center , has worked as a dispatcher and a volunteer firefighter. He tells me that these workers are the first call when an emergency takes place and they are truly saving lives. However, there are just not enough people filling the positions

“Back in the 70’s and 80’s, when we would have 2 or 3 openings, we would get 50 to 60 applicants. Today, we get 15 applicants. Its’s just the whole job thing, people just don’t want to work. This is night, weekends, these are holidays. They are paid well to work that but still some people are not in a mindset that they have to work a weekend. It is what it is.”

“It’s high stress, you have to get it right every time, there’s no room for error. People can die.”

Hoffman tells me that not only in Monroe County are they struggling to find workers to fill those spots, but also all around the commonwealth.

Dispatchers in the Monroe location dispatch and answer all calls - they do not transfer calls unless it's to contact state police.

The number of calls depends on the day, including if there are events in the area or bad weather conditions. On average, The center receives around 1,000 calls a day.

It takes training to serve as a dispatcher- part of that training is learning to answer the call within 3 rings.

“You want the right person sitting on that phone and talking on the radio that has a calming voice, can’t show their emotions, there’s a lot of emotions, a lot of passion. But you have to keep a monotone voice, keep it going and get the critical information that’s needed so you can make a determination of what is needed to send to that situation.”

Al Kearney, director of 911 at Lackawanna County Center for Public Safety tells me that the operators they have now are working overtime.
“There's overtime everyday here at the center and their working multiple extra shifts a week to cover and be here for the residents of the county.

We train and do three classes a year to try and get people, and they hang in there. Unfortunately, we do lose some and we gain some, as we gain, we lose. It’s a battle we battle every day.”

“We appreciate the ones that work here, and they do a great job, their hardworking, and very knowledgeable. Were lucky to have the ones we have.”

To find out more about the job opportunities, follow these links:

https://www.monroeco911.com/

https://www.lackawannacounty.org/government/departments/human_resources/employment.php



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