FDNY Fire Assignments on NYC Islands

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NYC has approximately 40 smaller islands in addition to three main islands (Manhattan, SI and part of Long Island. Some are no longer islands (e.g. - Coney Island). A few are accessible by bridges (e.g. - City Island). Some are very small. Many are un-inhabited. Some are shared with NJ. But there can be incidents on them.

Are there FDNY box numbers assigned to these locations?

What are current fire response protocols for Governor's Island, Ellis Island, Liberty Island?

Rikers Island has own Corrections fire department. What is FDNY protocol?

I remember as a kid Marine 9 being special called for fires on Shooters Island off SI which had many old shipyard buildings, piers and abandoned boats.

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According to "The Regs"
11.13 Operations on Islands or Vessels

11.13.1 Governors, Bedloes, and Ellis Islands have no alarm boxes connected directly with a Central Station. Fires on these islands will be reported by telephone to the Manhattan Central Station. Procedure shall be in accordance with instruction on back of special building box cards 3-18-11 and 3-100, Manhattan. The dispatcher shall also notify the deputy chief on duty with the Marine Division.

11.13.2 In order to provide additional personnel and equipment to assist fire boat operations connected with marine emergencies or fire aboard vessels under way or anchored in waters in and around New York City; or on islands for which there are no regular assignments, procedures to be followed shall be in accordance with instructions on back of the following special building box cards:
Manhattan
3-19-11 3-251-11 3-543-11
3-727-11 3-1190-11 3-1549-11
Brooklyn
3-34-11 3-471-11 3-1499-11
Richmond
3-231-11
 
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Hart Island, sometimes referred to as Hart's Island,[a] is located at the western end of Long Island Sound, in the northeastern Bronx in New York City. Measuring approximately 1 mile (1.6 km) long by 0.33 miles (0.53 km) wide, Hart Island is part of the Pelham Islands archipelago, to the east of City Island.

The island's first public use was as a training ground for the United States Colored Troops in 1864. Since then, Hart Island has been the location of a Union Civil War prison camp, a psychiatric institution, a tuberculosis sanatorium, a potter's field with mass burials, a homeless shelter, a boys' reformatory, a jail, and a drug rehabilitation center. Several other structures, such as an amusement park, were planned for Hart Island but not built. During the Cold War, Nike defense missiles were stationed on Hart Island. The island was intermittently used as a prison and a homeless shelter until 1967; the last inhabited structures were abandoned in 1977. The potter's field on Hart Island was run by the New York City Department of Correction until 2019, when the New York City Council voted to transfer jurisdiction to the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation.

The remains of more than one million people are buried on Hart Island, though since the first decade of the 21st century, there are fewer than 1,500 burials a year. Burials on Hart Island include individuals who were not claimed by their families or did not have private funerals; the homeless and the indigent; and mass burials of disease victims.

Access to the island was restricted by the Department of Correction, which operated an infrequent ferryboat service and imposed strict visitation quotas. Burials were conducted by inmates from the nearby Rikers Island jail. The Hart Island Project, a public charity founded by visual artist Melinda Hunt, worked to improve access to the island and make burial records more easily available. Transfer to the Parks Department in 2019, had been sought for over twenty years, and was hoped to ease public access to the Island. Burials in the island's Potters' Field continued after the transfer.
 

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Rikers Island - NYC Corrections Department

Fire Safety Unit (FSU)​

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The Fire Safety Unit (FSU) consists of Correction Officers and Civilians who work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Their mission is to ensure optimum fire safety at DOC facilities for all occupants. FSU has taken full responsibility to maintain the department’s 100-million-dollar investment of newly installed fire alarm systems and the contract to test, inspect and maintain these vital Life Safety fire alarm systems in accordance with FDNY rules and codes.
Monitoring – FSU Staff monitors fire safety activities of all vendors and contractors who perform testing, inspection, and maintenance of fire alarm systems and equipment, ensuring compliance with all NYC Fire Codes and DOC Directives. FSU Civilian Program Specialist monitors DOC Facility Fire Alarm systems 24 hours a day and immediately notify on-duty FSU Officers and Senior FSU staff whenever a fire alarm is activated.
Responding – FSU Staff are first responders to all fire incidents including fire alarm activations and other DOC emergencies whenever warranted. During these responses, FSU Officers assist Facilities during a fire/smoke condition, ensure that small fires are extinguished, occupants are safely evacuated and conduct preliminary arson investigations. FSU serves as the designated liaison between the DOC and responding FDNY units.
Inspections – FSU Staff conduct the annual fire safety inspection at all DOC facilities, ensuring that Facilities maintain a high level of fire safety compliance with relevant codes and Directives. The Fire Safety Unit also coordinates with FDNY Battalions that respond to our Facilities and review entrance procedures, perform inspections and discuss relevant topics and concerns.
Training – FSU staff works with the Correction Academy to develop and deliver fire safety training for all new Correction Officers, newly promoted Captains and Assistant Deputy Wardens, to ensure they are ready to respond to all fire emergencies in accordance with our Fire Safety Directives. FSU Officers also conduct site-specific training sessions for facilities when requested by Wardens and conduct and evaluate fire evacuation drills conducted at all DOC facilities.

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Shooters Island - Staten Island

Shooters Island is a 43-acre (17 ha) uninhabited island at the southern end of Newark Bay, off the North Shore of Staten Island in New York City. The boundary between the states of New York and New Jersey runs through the island, with a small portion on the north end of the island belonging to the cities of Bayonne and Elizabeth in New Jersey and the rest being part of the borough of Staten Island in New York City.

Early history​

In colonial times Shooters Island was used as a hunting preserve. During the Revolutionary War, George Washington used the island as a drop-off point for messages, and the place became a haven for spies

Shipyard​

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Graveyard, Vessel No. 53 is Jane Moseley built in 1873 renamed Minerva 1911–1932
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Minerva in the boat basin circa 1936
The first shipyard on Shooters Island was created in 1860 by David Decker. From 1898 until 1910, the island was home to a major shipyard, the Townsend-Downey Shipbuilding Company. Theodore E. Ferris, who later designed the eponymous ships used by the American government in World War I, was an employee of the firm. Around this time it was also home to the Standard Shipbuilding Company, which bought the island in 1915. The entire island was occupied by buildings, including a foundry, pattern shop, and offices. There were major docks and shipways that faced to the east. Contrary to a previous report, President Theodore Roosevelt did not go hunting on this industrial island.

The Townsend-Downey Company built a yacht, Meteor III, for Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany. Its launch in February 1902 was attended by many hundreds of spectators, including Pres. Theodore Roosevelt and Prince Henry of Prussia. Alice Roosevelt, the president's daughter, christened the boat. Thomas Alva Edison sent a cameraman who made one of the first news movies of the event. It is available online from the Library of Congress. The next day a reception was held at the White House for Mr. Downey and representatives of the German Government.

The following year the fast three-masted schooner Atlantic was launched at the yard. In 1905, it raced across the Atlantic and won the Kaiser's cup and set a record for the crossing under sail which stood unbroken for almost 90 years. Another famous vessel built on Shooter's Island was Carnegie, built for the Carnegie Institution of Washington for use in magnetic surveys in the Pacific Ocean. The brigantine yacht was named after industrialist and philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, who was a friend of Mr. Downey. It was built entirely of wood and nonmagnetic metals so as not to interfere with magnetic measurements.

The island came under the control of the Tidewater Oil Company in 1903. In 1905, the eight building plant and its 33 acres were purchased by the Colonial Trust Company for $516,000. At the time, the shipyard was valued at two million dollars.

The island was used for industrial and shipbuilding operations through 1922. Abandoned vessels began to accumulate around the perimeter of the island by 1930.

Bird sanctuary​

Neglected during much of the later 20th century, the island has been made an official bird sanctuary, partially to discourage the United States Army Corps of Engineers who wanted to blow up the island to ease navigation by vessels coming down from Port Newark. It has begun to disintegrate into Newark Bay. The island and decayed remnants of old piers are visible to users of the Bayonne Bridge between Staten Island and Bayonne, New Jersey. The remains of the once active shipyard are still present, but diminishing every year.

Shooters Island began to support nesting wading birds, cormorants and gulls in the early 1970s. At its peak in 1995, the island supported 400 nesting pairs of herons, egrets, ibis and 121 nesting pairs of double-crested cormorants. The island is now owned by the City of New York and is maintained by New York City Department of Parks and Recreation as a bird sanctuary.

 

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Randalls and Wards Islands​


Randalls Island (sometimes called Randall's Island) and Wards Island are conjoined islands, collectively called Randalls and Wards Islands, in New York City separated from Manhattan Island by the Harlem River, from Queens by the East River and Hell Gate, and from the Bronx by the Bronx Kill. The two islands were formerly separated, with Randalls Island to the north of Wards Island. The channel between them, Little Hell Gate, was infilled by the early 1960s. A third, smaller island, Sunken Meadow Island, was located east of Randalls Island and was connected to it in 1955.

The island had a population of 1,648 living on 2.09 square kilometers (520 acres) in 2010. Most of the island is parkland, spanning a total of 432.69 acres (175.10 ha), and managed by Randall's Island Park Alliance. The park offers athletic fields, a driving range, greenways, playgrounds and picnic grounds. The island also has a history of being used for asylums, hospitals, and cemeteries, and is currently home to several public facilities, including two psychiatric hospitals, a state police station, a fire academy, a wastewater treatment plant, and several homeless shelters. Outside of these institutions, there is no residential housing for the general public on the island.

The island is crossed by the Triborough and Hell Gate bridges. The island can be reached by the Triborough Bridge; the Wards Island Bridge, which serves pedestrians and bicyclists and links the island to East Harlem in Manhattan; or by the Randalls Island Connector, a pedestrian and cycling bridge crossing the Bronx Kill and connecting to the Port Morris neighborhood of the Bronx. Randalls Island is the home of three music festivals: Governors Ball Music Festival, Panorama Music Festival, and Electric Zoo Festival.

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There is no firehouse on Randalls or Wards Islands but they are accessible by bridge by FDNY units.

FDNY Fire Academy is located on Randall's Island. The Bureau of Training is responsible for all training needs for the Fire Department of New York.
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Roosevelt Island, Manhattan

Roosevelt Island
is a narrow island in New York City's East River, within the borough of Manhattan. It lies between Manhattan Island to its west and the borough of Queens, on Long Island, to its east. Running from the equivalent of East 46th to 85th Streets on Manhattan Island, it is about 2 miles (3.2 km) long, with a maximum width of 800 feet (240 m), and a total area of 147 acres (0.59 km2). Together with Mill Rock, Roosevelt Island constitutes Manhattan's Census Tract 238, which has a land area of 0.279 sq mi (0.72 km2), and had a population of 11,661 as of the 2010 United States Census.

Lying below the Queensboro Bridge, the island cannot be accessed directly from the bridge itself. Vehicular traffic uses the Roosevelt Island Bridge to access the island from Astoria, Queens, though the island is not designed for vehicular traffic and has several areas designed as car-free zones. Several public transportation options to reach the island exist. The Roosevelt Island Tramway, the oldest urban commuter tramway in the U.S, connects the island to Manhattan Island's Upper East Side. The Roosevelt Island station carries the F and <F> trains of the New York City Subway. The NYC Ferry also maintains a dock on the east side of the island. On-island transport is provided by the Red Bus service.

The island was called Minnehanonck by the Lenape and Varkens Eylandt (Hog Island) by New Netherlanders, and during the colonial era and later as Blackwell's Island. It was known as Welfare Island when it was used principally for hospitals, from 1921 to 1973. It was renamed Roosevelt Island (in honor of Franklin D. Roosevelt) in 1973.

Roosevelt Island is owned by the city but was leased to the New York State Urban Development Corporation for 99 years in 1969. Most of the residential buildings on Roosevelt Island are rental buildings. There is also a cooperative named Rivercross and a condominium building named Riverwalk. One rental building (Eastwood) has left New York State's Mitchell-Lama Housing Program, though current residents are still protected. It is now called Roosevelt Landings. There are attempts to privatize three other buildings, including the cooperative. The FDNY also maintains its Special Operations Command facility at 750 Main St. on the island.

There is no engine of ladder company located on Roosevelt Island. FDNY units from Queens can access by bridge.

FDNY did have a firehouse on the previously named Welfare Island - Engine 49 - which was a combined company.


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Engine 49 was disbanded when access by bridge became available.


The FDNY Fire Academy was moved to Welfare Island in 1961 (also called "The Rock" back then).

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Rat Island is a privately owned island in New York City. It is approximately 2.5 acres (1.0 ha) in size and located in City Island Harbor, which is a part of Long Island Sound. It is about halfway between City Island and Hart Island and south of High Island. It is one of the Pelham Islands.

Description​

The small irregular island is about 2.5 acres (1.0 ha) in area.[1] It has a dual-humped appearance and is mostly a lump of Manhattan schist bedrock. There is a small channel that cuts into the bedrock on the southern side of the tiny island that was used for launching small boats. This channel is filled with mussel shells. There is a purple-bluish "beach" made of mussel shells mixed with bird bones on the west side of the island with some reed grass.

The highest point on the island is usually covered in gull bird guano and is underwater during high tide storms. The largest inhabitant of the island is usually a great blue heron that sleeps on the island during daytime.

Rat Island - Bronx NY​

History​

Rat Island was included in the purchase by Thomas Pell in 1654. During the typhoid fever scares of the 1800s, Rat Island was used by Pelham, New York, as a typhoid quarantine hospital for about 40 infected people called the "Pelham Pesthouse". The remains of cobblestone walls and foundations are still there. It was abandoned due to storm floods. Local legends say there was also a lighthouse for a while.

New York City purchased the island in 1888. It became a mini-colony for writers and artists in the early 20th century. It was bought by Dr. H. A. Parmentier in 1908. He subsequently leased the island to the Mount Vernon Club in 1931.

It was owned by a Brooklyn lawyer until 1972 when it was sold to Edmund "Red" Brennen. He said he bought it to do salvage work and store equipment. For many years crane buckets and lattice booms and other equipment were visible. In March 2009 Brennen put Rat Island up for sale for $300,000. On September 26, 2011, The New York Times published an article about the island, stating the property would go up for auction on October 2, 2011. It was sold at that auction for $160,000 to 71-year-old retired Port Authority worker Alex Schibli, a Swiss resident of nearby City Island. Schibli said he has no immediate plans for physical changes to the island, but is considering renaming it Malina Island after his granddaughter.

In summer months, a couple dozen people may come to the island. In the past, during summer the Parks Department used to put waste drums so they may contain their garbage. Sometimes, the local first responders use it to practice rescue missions with boats and helicopters.

In August 2016, a polyester copy of the statue of the Swiss freedom fighter William Tell was erected on the island for the 725th Swiss National Day. The original is located in Altdorf, Uri, Switzerland.[4] In March 2017, Schibli was sued unsuccessfully in a People's Court episode for fees charged by an engineer whom he asked to give an estimate on what was needed to put a more permanent statue of William Tell on the island.

Name​

It is not known how the island received its name. It has been proposed by Red Brennan and others including former prison workers that prisoners escaping from Hart Island nearby, nicknamed "rats", used the small island to rest before swimming on to City Island and freedom. Another theory is that when the island housed typhoid victims in the 19th century it presumably attracted vermin.

According to Schibli, the island's original name was "Rattle Island," because rattling noisemakers were used to ward off ships.

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Rat Island is privately owned and uninhabited.
 
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Prall's Island - Staten Island

Prall's Island
is an uninhabited island in the Arthur Kill between Staten Island, New York, and Linden, New Jersey, in the United States. The 89-acre (0.36 km2) island is one of the minor islands that are part of the borough of Staten Island in New York City.

The island is named for a descendant or descendants of early Staten Island settler Arendt Jansen Prall Van Naarden (c. 1647-1725) (in Dutch, Praal), probably his grandson Abraham Prall (1706–1775), a local farmer. It was originally known as Dongan's Island, after New York Governor Thomas Dongan (1634–1715), who took the office in 1688. The name was later corrupted to Duncan's Island. Prall's Island did not take hold until the late 19th century. The island is now owned by the City of New York and is maintained by New York City Department of Parks and Recreation as a bird sanctuary.

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I remember as a Kid in East Harlem Randalls Island was a favorite Ball fields all over before they were converted to Soccer and destroyed literally. They would leave the Foot Bridge in the raised Position starting at about 9 P.M. Closing Time. It had an iron gate on the pathway. Still a nice place for Bike Riding.
 
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Bronx:
Hart Island: Box 8855
North Brother Island: Box 8871

Manhattan:
Governors Island: Box 8204
Ellis Island: Box 8421
Liberty Island: Box 8420
SOC HQ: Box 8183
*Many School & Hospitals have Box Numbers on Roosevelt Island*
*Many Box Numbers at the Hospital on Randall's Island*
Icahn Stadium: Box 8334
Randall's Island TBTA Complex Buildings Box 1590
FDNY Training Center Building 9 Randall's Island Box 8337
FDNY Training Center Main Rd Randall's Island Box 8338
FDNY Training Center Reilly Building Randall's Island Box 8380
 
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Hart Island, sometimes referred to as Hart's Island,[a] is located at the western end of Long Island Sound, in the northeastern Bronx in New York City. Measuring approximately 1 mile (1.6 km) long by 0.33 miles (0.53 km) wide, Hart Island is part of the Pelham Islands archipelago, to the east of City Island.

The island's first public use was as a training ground for the United States Colored Troops in 1864. Since then, Hart Island has been the location of a Union Civil War prison camp, a psychiatric institution, a tuberculosis sanatorium, a potter's field with mass burials, a homeless shelter, a boys' reformatory, a jail, and a drug rehabilitation center. Several other structures, such as an amusement park, were planned for Hart Island but not built. During the Cold War, Nike defense missiles were stationed on Hart Island. The island was intermittently used as a prison and a homeless shelter until 1967; the last inhabited structures were abandoned in 1977. The potter's field on Hart Island was run by the New York City Department of Correction until 2019, when the New York City Council voted to transfer jurisdiction to the New York City Department of Parks and Recreation.

The remains of more than one million people are buried on Hart Island, though since the first decade of the 21st century, there are fewer than 1,500 burials a year. Burials on Hart Island include individuals who were not claimed by their families or did not have private funerals; the homeless and the indigent; and mass burials of disease victims.

Access to the island was restricted by the Department of Correction, which operated an infrequent ferryboat service and imposed strict visitation quotas. Burials were conducted by inmates from the nearby Rikers Island jail. The Hart Island Project, a public charity founded by visual artist Melinda Hunt, worked to improve access to the island and make burial records more easily available. Transfer to the Parks Department in 2019, had been sought for over twenty years, and was hoped to ease public access to the Island. Burials in the island's Potters' Field continued after the transfer.
I saw a documentary on this awhile back on the History Channel, they focused on the tuberculosis sanatorium aspect of the island.
 
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I saw a documentary on this awhile back on the History Channel, they focused on the tuberculosis sanatorium aspect of the island.
The Potter's Field on Hart Island was also featured prominently in the 2001 movie "Don't Say A Word", starring Michael Douglas and Brittany Murphy,
 
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I believe the only part of NYC that is not an island is da Bronx, except for City Island, Hart and North Brother Islands. Da other 4 boros are connected with bridges
 
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I believe the only part of NYC that is not an island is da Bronx, except for City Island, Hart and North Brother Islands. Da other 4 boros are connected with bridges
Correct. Only borough in NYC that is connected to mainland US is BX connected to NY state.
 
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