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Bulldog

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Certainly high-rise ladders like you mentioned go somewhat higher than Exst FDNY ladders but still don't come close to reaching the top or even that much higher than Exst equipment. Not even the highest of them would've been any help for the crane fire. I think you have to weigh the cost, benefit, training requirements, etc. And when you do I'm quite sure that it will come out that there isn't enough benefit to justify them.
 
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t123ken

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Captain784 said:
The FDNY needs to look at "High Ladder Units. London England bought 2 after the tragic fire in the Grenfield Towers. The largest busiest Fire Dept. in the world has more high-rise buildings than any other city in the world. We need to have an exterior option for those fires, such as the recent Crane fire and collapse in Midtown a few days ago, and the dramatic Lifesaving Rope rescues last month or so. FDNY had 144 ft. High Ladders back in the 1960s & 1970s. One was assigned to Ladder 24 in Midtown and another to L-119 in Northern Brooklyn at one point in time, and at another time Ladder 14 in Harlem. Photos Below of FDNY High Ladder and more currently "L.F.B." = London Fire Brigade high ladders, Total height of 64 meters, that have an elevator style bucket to transport members and victims up and down the very tall ladder. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
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Ladder 24's high ladder came from Ladder 13. Some of 13's chauffeurs were lifted to 24 when the rig went there.
 
NYBravest82

NYBravest82

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Skyler Fire said:
Where is this High Ladder gonna be kept? Weight factor for the floors..,.
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Equally important is hows it gonna get through some of the streets...might be fine for midtown hi-rises, but once it gets to the downtown/Wall st. area types....eee.....
 
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Captain784

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There are firehouses where the additional weight of the large "High Ladder" is no problem. The firehouse of Hooper St. in Brooklyn once supported the weight of the Old Super Pumper and Tender as did the quarters of E-207 in downtown Brooklyn, and there are other firehouses that can support the weight. As for access in the small streets in some sections of NYC, London, England has a hell of a lot of small tight, streets and the have 2 New High Ladders in use. In the FDNY and other F.D.s Rear Mounted Aerials and Tower Ladders make it into these streets by making the turn into the fire block off of wide avenues or streets. FDNY Ladder 6 "The Dragon Wagon" in Chinatown in Manhattan had a rear mounted aerial for a time and Chinatown has very tight streets.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
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68jk09

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^^^LAD*6's Rearmount only came about because the CPT at the time G.E. wanted the Unit to be able to get sent to other areas of NYC so the younger FFs could gain some varied experience outside Chinatown & the original Tiller somewhat restricted this movement as far as relocating to non Tiller FHs.....later when J.J. was the CPT he wisely choose to get a Tiller back for better maneuverability in their own area....their then RM was given to the then newly formed LAD*133 & 6 got a Tiller back
 
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thefirefreak911

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Captain784 said:
There are firehouses where the additional weight of the large "High Ladder" is no problem. The firehouse of Hooper St. in Brooklyn once supported the weight of the Old Super Pumper and Tender as did the quarters of E-207 in downtown Brooklyn, and there are other firehouses that can support the weight. As for access in the small streets in some sections of NYC, London, England has a hell of a lot of small tight, streets and the have 2 New High Ladders in use. In the FDNY and other F.D.s Rear Mounted Aerials and Tower Ladders make it into these streets by making the turn into the fire block off of wide avenues or streets. FDNY Ladder 6 "The Dragon Wagon" in Chinatown in Manhattan had a rear mounted aerial for a time and Chinatown has very tight streets.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
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london has 3 ladder 2 of those are sponsored
 
Skyler Fire

Skyler Fire

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thefirefreak911 said:
whats the differents in loadout of CPC's and SSL.s
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CPC are really more of a support unit…. SSLs can do everything a CPC can do but they are Hazmat Trained. SSLs carry Decon stuff and Rescue stuff usually the Decon Engine they are housed with equipment…SSLs also have metering & Testing capabilities…. I’ll explain more when I post SSL….
 
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thefirefreak911 said:
on the BC is the Aide a volunteered spot Light duty member or a permanent assignment
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Permanent assignment for a Battalion Chief, the Aide has some firefighting duties at specific alarms. A Deputy Chief would have a Light Duty Firefighter as his Aide.
 
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thefirefreak911

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GeoC said:
Permanent assignment for a Battalion Chief, the Aide has some firefighting duties at specific alarms. A Deputy Chief would have a Light Duty Firefighter as his Aide.
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so would it be a prefered job or not as here our chiefs run without aides on the Chiefcar
 
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