Hurricane Sandy Apparatus Losses

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For those of you who don't subscribe to Fire Apparatus Journal, Jack Lerch reports the following in his column in the March/April edition:

"As a result of Hurricane Sandy and its aftermath, the Department had a total of 115 vehicles damaged.  These included 29 pumpers, 11 rearmounts, 8 tower-ladders, 5 rescues and haz-mat rigs, 14 ambulances, 6 battalion vehicles, and 42 other vehicles, which included special units, passenger cars, gators and service vehicles.

As of press time, of the 115 vehicles, 56 were so severely damaged that they are awaiting salvage and will be disposed of.  These include:  six 1998 Seagrave 1000 gpm pumpers (Reserve 521, a training rig and four spares), a 2000 Seagrave assigned to Training, plus the 2002 Luverne 1000 gpm pumper assigned as the funeral caisson; four spare Seagrave 100-foot rear-mounts (a 1994, a 1995, a 1996 and a 1999), plus the 2011 Ferrara 100-foot rear-mounts assigned to Ladders 81 and 137; and Ladder 161's 2001 95-foot tower.

Among the special units destroyed are three 1997 International/Saulsbury brush units assigned to Brush Fire Units 1, 2, and 6, plus a 2002 Ford/Firematic brush unit assigned to Brush Fire Unit 4; a 1987 retrofitted Mack pumper assigned as Foam Carrier 321; Engine 329's All Terrain Response Vehicle, a 2007 Ford F550; the spare Thawing Unit, a 1989 GMC/Saulsbury; Engine 165's Haz-Mat Tender, a 2004 Freightliner/LDV; the Scuba Unit, a 2000 Workhorse; Engine 154's 2004 Ford F450 ATV Transport Vehicle and 2004 Polaris six-wheel-drive brush fire ATV; Tactical Support Unit 2's 2002 International/Saulsbury; a 1988 Mack heavy wrecker, and a 2001 GMC light wrecker, both assigned to Fleet Services.

The EMS vehicles include seven Ford/Horton ambulances (three 2004, a 2005, a 2006, a 2008 and a 2009).  The remainder of the vehicles awaiting salvage include battalion vehicles, passenger cars, SUVs, gators, pick-up trucks, service vehicles and vans."
 
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For those who do nmot subscribe a new FDNY book, Mack CF apparatus, starting in 1968. Cost is 39.95 and 4 bucks for the mailman. NJoy, GG
 

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Sounds like they were fortunate in the fact that most of the damaged units or not front-line service vehicles. Is FDNY and NYC self-insured or are these vehicles covered by insurance for replacement?
 
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NYC is self insured.....the visibly or obviously damaged Rigs may only be the tip of the iceberg.....numerous Rigs that are still in service were exposed to salt water....down the road their lifespan may be affected.
 
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Good to see we finally got the list of units destroyed. I'm pretty sure Ladder 85 was among those damaged as they were without their truck for quite a while. As for L81 I'm assuming the salt water damage took effect in the weeks after the storm. I do recall seeing them and 161 running around in their regular trucks... Just checked my pictures and indeed on 11/13 I saw them both.

It should be interesting to monitor how many trucks that were exposed to the water will be in the coming months and years.
 
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Istopped by Ladder 81 quarters today and one member old me that the electrical system was fried during the hurricane. They said the truck is in for repair and should be returned to the in the future.
 
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anyone know how the 2002 luverne funeral caisson was damaged? was it put into service and damaged or was it flooded sitting?  always thought it was a good looking rig for those horrible days we have we have had over the years
 
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I'm kinda curious as to what...if any alterations the department will make to future apparatus designs in light of all this. I expect most of the Engines, Ladders and Rescue designs will stay the same, but I'd almost have to expect at least a little change in BFU's...
 

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I had heard the location of the caisson flooded. It's my understanding that the location housed many rigs and they moved as much as they could but ran out of time or something.

I would think they should be working on replacements for someone of these units.  Last I heard 329's house wagon was a temp pickup truck. 
 
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I think  Hurricane  Sandys wrath proved the need (NY. Nj. Etc) for high water military type vehicles in the flood prone areas.
 
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R1SmokeEater said:
I think  Hurricane  Sandys wrath proved the need (NY. Nj. Etc) for high water military type vehicles in the flood prone areas.
I know in my county in NJ they had gotten some surplus military vehicles and had them running from the start of the storm as opposed to running regular trucks and then switching over.
 
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