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Does anyone know what this means? If I’m reading this right there are engines out of service for the whole tour today.
 

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baileyjeff said:
Does anyone know what this means? If I’m reading this right there are engines out of service for the whole tour today.
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Well seeing how I doubt 50 engines are at the Rock.
Maybe it means all the apparatus assigned to those engines are OOS, i.e. at the shops and they're in spares. That's what I think at least. Same with the Ladder Companies.
 
I often see this posted on "x" on the NYC EMS watch site but the stats do not line up

Yes 197 engine companies so 197 pumpers but it misses the 8 squad companies
so if 224 pumpers on the roster minus 205 Engine/Squad that leaves 18 spares
not sure if the Reserve pumpers are factored in
But " Actual in Service" total 151 as you say is ashortfall of 46 !?

As for Ladders143 companies

fleet strength is 194 so 51 spares That can't be correct !
116 shown as actually in service so again a shortage so a shortfall of 27.

Stats wise how many spares on the roster ??
quite seerate are the Reserve fleet
The Reserv fleet seems stable
#500 series Engines = 22
#600 series Towers = 01
#700 series Rearmounts = 08
spare tiller ??

The numbers don't match the report !
 
So, I'm pretty sure what NYC determines to be a pumper is Engines and Squads combined.
So 8 Squads + Sq800 as the reserve.
197 Frontline Engines, 22 Reserve Engines, 18 spare engines.

Squad's 1, 14, 41, 61, 252, 270 and 288 are all running 2013 Seagraves I believe. Before that they had 02's and 01's. Thats 7 Squad Spares right there. Sq8 is running in a 2021, their former rig was a 2014 prev assigned to E165. So thats 8 spares.

8 Squad Spares + the 18 Spare Engines = 26 Spares.
SQ800 + 22 Reserve Engines = 23. That's 49 spare/reserves total.

If I counted correctly there should be 246 pumpers?
RobUK said:
I often see this posted on "x" on the NYC EMS watch site but the stats do not line up

Yes 197 engine companies so 197 pumpers but it misses the 8 squad companies
so if 224 pumpers on the roster minus 205 Engine/Squad that leaves 18 spares
not sure if the Reserve pumpers are factored in
But " Actual in Service" total 151 as you say is ashortfall of 46 !?

As for Ladders143 companies

fleet strength is 194 so 51 spares That can't be correct !
116 shown as actually in service so again a shortage so a shortfall of 27.

Stats wise how many spares on the roster ??
quite seerate are the Reserve fleet
The Reserv fleet seems stable
#500 series Engines = 22
#600 series Towers = 01
#700 series Rearmounts = 08
spare tiller ??

The numbers don't match the report !
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There is no way the numbers from nyc.gov are accurate

My guess is that any rig that has any sort of issue is getting marked as out of service on the site, even if its say..a single led light not working.

Not to long ago EMS was marked as only having 220 something ambulances, despite 300 something ambulances being in service that day. They also lowered the target from 488 to 332 Daily in Service like 2 or 3 weeks ago

The average for the fiscal year has also been below target number for everything. So as I mentioned its either small issues marking the vehicle OOS despite it working fine, or the numbers are just completly wrong.

Also here's the link to the site if anybody is interested https://www.nyc.gov/site/operations/performance/fleet-report.page
 
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