NYPD.

69 METS said:
68jk09 said:

If the F.D.N.Y. is the agency responsible for providing emergency medical services in NYC and CFRD engine companies are the first responders to life threatening medical emergencies in NYC ... Why then is the city of NY training and equipping law enforcement personnel for this type of medical emergency rather than the FDNY?

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/09/nypd_pilot_program_on_staten_i.html

Good question.  I can understand officers within Dept of Homeless Services being trained because they work within shelters.  But I don't understand NYPD officers now being trained and equipped for medical assessment and intervention. 

So if there is a suspected OD medical call received by 911 in the 122 Pct, you will get an FDNY engine, the closest FDNY BLS and ALS units, and then maybe wait for a cop equipped and trained to administer a spray. I am assuming not all cops will be trained so you would have to wait for an available trained NYPD unit.  A lot of resources arriving at different sequences depending upon location and other emergencies.  Who's in charge problems arise.

Even worse would be a cop arriving and misdiagnosing a patient who has some other problem.  Narcan also doesn't help someone with a serious cardiac problem or is in anaphylactic shock. 

 
Quote from: Mack on January 02, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
[/quote]http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/09/nypd_pilot_program_on_staten_i.html

Good question.  I can understand officers within Dept of Homeless Services being trained because they work within shelters.  But I don't understand NYPD officers now being trained and equipped for medical assessment and intervention. 

So if there is a suspected OD medical call received by 911 in the 122 Pct, you will get an FDNY engine, the closest FDNY BLS and ALS units, and then maybe wait for a cop equipped and trained to administer a spray. I am assuming not all cops will be trained so you would have to wait for an available trained NYPD unit.  A lot of resources arriving at different sequences depending upon location and other emergencies.  Who's in charge problems arise.

Even worse would be a cop arriving and misdiagnosing a patient who has some other problem.  Narcan also doesn't help someone with a serious cardiac problem or is in anaphylactic shock.
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Most likely the NYPD discovered that federal grant $$$ was available. Federal grant $$$ is what inspired Ray Kelly to order Bloomberg to place the NYPD in charge of Haz Maz incidents. Medical emergencies require a consistent, rapid response from a reliable agency. Listen to the scanner anytime and you'll hear FDNY units holding down incidents that require law enforcement intervention only to be reminded, "The NYPD does NOT give ETA's". With all of its resources, the NYPD (which has more personnel than the armies of many countries) should be able to provide excellent crime prevention in the way of cops on the beat, but that has never been the case as the department assigns so much of their personnel to 'special squads' that do everything BUT patrol and prevent crime. To that we now add the elite, specially trained Nose Spray Squad !!!
 
Well meaning.... but .....maybe misdirected start ....why not piloted in FDNY CFR  also ?
 
1-5-14...NASSAU PD IN QNS....  NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) ? Nassau County police shot and wounded a man who allegedly struck an officer with a car in Queens Sunday.
Nassau County police told CBS 2 the incident happened around 4:40 p.m. at 186-10 Wexford Terr. in Queens. Officers from Nassau County had crossed into Queens for an investigation, police said.
Sources told 1010 WINS two Nassau County officers approached a car, and the driver took off and struck one of the officers.
The other officer opened fire on the driver, and critically wounded him, police said.
The 21-year-old man was taken to Jamaica Hospital with a gunshot wound to the torso, police said.
The officer was taken to North Shore-LIJ Health System North Shore University Hospital in Manhasset with leg injuries, police said.
The crime scene was near the Passionist Monastery in Jamaica Estates, Queens.
 
I was going to ask a question about the NYPDs new mounts, and saw this thread so thought I would ask it here..

I notice the NYPD is replacing its FCVs with two types of ford, the ford fusion and ford interceptor.

My questions are, why two different types of vehicle? what are both these models used for, one for routine patrol and the other for fast response, or were both models purchased to perform the same role?? Is the NYPD going with one of the type for future purchase or will they continue to buy both??

Regards

JT
 
Ford does make in addition to the Taurus Interceptor an Explorer Interceptor i dont think NYPD has the newer Explorer right now....the Interceptor models all seem to be more in name only nothing like the old Crown Vics...i have spoken to a friend in Highway about the Charger he is not impressed & actually favors the Nissan Altimas that NYPD also has............ 2013 Ford PIs........  http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/............. 2014 Ford Explorer Interceptor...... First look: 2014 Ford Explorer Police Interceptor Utility with EcoBoost
 
68jk09 said:
Ford does make in addition to the Taurus Interceptor an Explorer Interceptor i dont think NYPD has the newer Explorer right now....the Interceptor models all seem to be more in name only nothing like the old Crown Vics...i have spoken to a friend in Highway about the Charger he is not impressed & actually favors the Nissan Altimas that NYPD also has....... 2013 Ford PIs........  http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/

I think you're right I haven't seen NYPD with any Explorer Interceptors but that could change. And that's interesting to hear about the Chargers, I always liked them but never heard any actual opinions about them. Even more surprised about the Altima. As far as the Taurus, I've seen in online reviews by other PDs that the visibility from inside is pretty bad, especially out the rear window. Ford actually encourages customers to get the back-up sensor or the rear camera because the view out the back is so bad. I've also heard it is a little small on the inside, but nothing from any New York officers
 
I had the responsibility before retiring to evaluate, purchase and outfit our Ford CVI replacements. The Ford products won out based on handling- all wheel drive and ability to mount equipment properly. They actually handle better at high speed than the CVI. The Crown Vic was a great police car but the rear would get loose when cornering. The Chargers look great and are fast but under-braked.You can't see out the windshield once you start mounting radar etc. They are all smaller inside no matter how the engineers calculate their cubic feet of space. The Utility Interceptors are just as fast as the sedans, have more space for equipment and most importantly the officer. My agency would not let us purchase all Utility Interceptors because they are  " SUVS" and it would look like we were purchasing gas guzzlers.
They were actually cheaper to purchase and had the same gas ratings . Another great bureaucratic decision.  The 1995 Chevrolet Caprice was the best police car I ever operated.
 
"excessive & a waste of time & resources" as the Det. Pres. said is certainly correct.
 
nfd2004 said:
68jk09 said:

  A police officer gets shot three times because some piece of $hit doesn't want to pay for his bus ride.

Maybe. I'm Bettin' he's Already 'Wanted' for Other Crimes.

Thoughts & Prayers...

23:15 Update
c/o CBS 2 News: Suspect is Wanted on PA Warrant for Narcotics Possession /
Distribution; has 6 Prior NY Arrests  :o

BTW:  Criminals Are Criminals; when I worked Security, I once earned an NYPD Commissioner's Commendation  for Busting an 'Individual' in Stuy-Town who was Wanted by the old Manh. Sex Crimes Unit
(Manh. SCRU - Prior to S.V.U.), for 14 Rapes in Manhattan including several in Stuy-Town.
My Partner & I were working in 'Clothes' on the 'Look-Out' for the Rape Suspect. We received a call
for a 'Prowler' in one of the Tenant Garages.
Guess Who we Arrested for Boosting a Car Battery in da' Garage !?!  8)
 
STAjo said:
nfd2004 said:
68jk09 said:

  A police officer gets shot three times because some piece of $hit doesn't want to pay for his bus ride.

Maybe. I'm Bettin' he's Already 'Wanted' for Other Crimes.

Thoughts & Prayers...

23:15 Update
c/o CBS 2 News: Suspect is Wanted on PA Warrant for Narcotics Possession /
Distribution; has 6 Prior NY Arrests  :o
...Fact..... maybe only having 6 priors in NYC gave him no "street cred" so he upped it by shooting a Police Officer.
 
Officer Li and his partner Officer Randy Chow observed the two perps boarding an MTA bus through the back door, they approached and the shooter, 28 yr old Rashawn Robinson who ran and opened fire on them. Another group of good Samaritans led the responding sector cars to an apartment about a block away where Robinson was found with the gun. He had six priors and an active warrant from PA. The second perp is still out there. Kudos to  the 2 OFF DUTY City EMT's Khadijah Hall and Shaun Alexander. Hall has 22 yrs on and Alexander has 26.

 
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