Previous Box Assisgments
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Back in the 60's and early 70's a 10-75 was 3 Engines, 2 Trucks and a BC (or 2 Engines, 1 Squad, 2 Trucks and a BC). Transmission of the "All-Hands" brought a Deputy Chief and a Rescue.
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The 3rd Truck on the 10-75 is normally the FAST Truck. FAST is FDNY for "RIT" and Consideration for a R.I.C.E. = Rapid Intervention Company Engine is ongoing. The RICE concept came from Ff. Andy Fredricks of FDNY Squad 18. Sadly, Andy was lost on 9/11/01 at the World Trade Center.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
Remember a 10-75 is a request for assistance.
A 10-75 was a request for 3 & 2 & 1 Batt.
All Hands (75) means:
1. Using 3 & 2.
2. Using 2 & 2 plus a squad.
3. Using all personnel on scene. (This could only be 1&1 or 10&10.)
Squads only went on boxes normally assigned. MOST of the boxes did not have a squad assigned.
Rescues were assigned either on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd alarms.
There were no mandates of having a rescue or squad on all boxes.
After the war years, there were no squads for a good number of years.
There were boxes in almost all the boroughs that on the 1st alarm was only 2&2. The second alarm was 4&1.
No 10-75 battalion chief. Only 1 additional batt chief assigned on the 2nd alarm & that was it.
So yes, you could have had a 5th alarm with one deputy chief & 2 battalion chiefs.
There were boxes throughout the city that had 2 battalions & a deputy on the first alarm.
Now the alarm assignment levels are standardized citywide.
A 10-75 was a request for 3 & 2 & 1 Batt.
All Hands (75) means:
1. Using 3 & 2.
2. Using 2 & 2 plus a squad.
3. Using all personnel on scene. (This could only be 1&1 or 10&10.)
Squads only went on boxes normally assigned. MOST of the boxes did not have a squad assigned.
Rescues were assigned either on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd alarms.
There were no mandates of having a rescue or squad on all boxes.
After the war years, there were no squads for a good number of years.
There were boxes in almost all the boroughs that on the 1st alarm was only 2&2. The second alarm was 4&1.
No 10-75 battalion chief. Only 1 additional batt chief assigned on the 2nd alarm & that was it.
So yes, you could have had a 5th alarm with one deputy chief & 2 battalion chiefs.
There were boxes throughout the city that had 2 battalions & a deputy on the first alarm.
Now the alarm assignment levels are standardized citywide.
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Aside from working Fires confirmed "back when" as 10-30 or 10-75 ....a regular FDNY War Years ( roughly '65 to '77 ) Pull Box response often was just 1 ENG & 1 LAD & often no BC....I remember during the height of the FDNY War Years BKLYN sending 1 ENG & SQ*3 in the Stretch Carryall to Boxes in Williamsburg / Bed Stuy & telling SQ*3 "you are the Truck" so on the scene there was no Ladder longer than the 24 footer on the ENG.
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Usually 2 Engine & 2 Trucks and a B.C. were assigned on a FDNY PULL BOX or as close to that as possible. Squads in the 1960s & 70's were equipped with truck co. tools and responded on Engine type apparatus but the use of them as trucks was at often needed. I spent a very short time in FDNY Squad 3 as a firefighter in the mid 1970s and spent a few tours as a Captain in FDNY Squads in the 1990. FDNY Squads did/do mostly truck work at fires and every now and then stretched handlines, as well as Haz. Mat. and rescue response, work in recent years.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired