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Beg to differ but Chicago Aerial Tower 8 is also 137'. They are quartered with Engine Company 28.View attachment 33586
E-One claims That Jackson MI Truck 5 is the tallest aerial ladder in service in North America at 137'. There are Aerial Platforms which are taller but this is a straight stick. Interestingly, the piped waterway and remote nozzle only go to the 100' level.
That’s what I said EOne states. I had a feeling there were others out there. Thanks brother.Beg to differ but Chicago Aerial Tower 8 is also 137'
AT-8 is an E-One also! 2019 E-One Cyclone CR 137' SO# 142704.That’s what I said EOne states. I had a feeling there were others out there. Thanks brother.
Maybe for the pre-pipe waterway up to 100'?A department on the east side of Cleveland has one of those 137’ E-One’s. Crazy part is they don’t really have the high rise need for it, but they have it.
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E-One claims That Jackson MI Truck 5 is the tallest aerial ladder in service in North America at 137'. There are Aerial Platforms which are taller but this is a straight stick. Interestingly, the piped waterway and remote nozzle only go to the 100' level.
Yes the Bronto’s so in some cases exceed 137. Some are up to 174 feetThe Bronto Skylifts, which exceed I think 135' aren't NFPA compliant and can't be counted as an inservoce unit. Not sure where the difference between being NFPA or not is.
They do but at some point I remember I think at 1 point they made 1 over 200'. Not much info on E Ones site. NASA has 1 or 2 of those to change lightbulbs out at the pads, or they did. Not sure if they still have them.Yes the Bronto’s so in some cases exceed 137. Some are up to 174 feet
One of the chiefs who was on Gettin Salty has mentioned on the show that they had tested one. He didn’t really go into detail as to why they didn’t get one, but I could imagine narrow streets and apparatus jockeying played a part. New superpumper you can park blocks away in theory depending on what it’s going to be utilized for at a fire.Back in 2003 we looked at the possibility of purchasing a Bronto. I was directed to contact every department in US and ask them about their experiences with the product. At the time there were a little over 20 departments with one. Almost all of them back then described very much the same things you described above. HIGH MAINTENANCE and lack of support. A lot more than typical aerial platforms and tower ladders. The electrical system was a 24 volt, the hardware all metric, a nightmare web of over 3 dozen microswitches, extensive relays, lack of support and a long lead time on parts being shipped from Europe. These were red flags to us and we continued to purchase American made aerials and platforms.
Good post RCL. Very informativeThe wheel base on a 135 e one aerial, is actually longer then a 116 Bronto. The aerial is 245 and the Bronto 230 inches.
What sets a 114/116 Bronto apart from say a comparable 100' platform, is horizontal reach. The Brontos will only go 88 feet horizontal compared to up to 92 feet for a comparable rear mount aerial platform.
A comparable E One 100' rear mount platform has a jack spread of 15'6" while the Brontos 116 is 19' so that's another big factor to consider. A comparable E One 100 aerial is 12'6" jack spread. Realistically, it's not getting a Bronto to the scene in most cases. It's setting the thing set up that's a headache.
Oddly enough, I can't find any mention of Brontos on E Ones web site. Other then the NH and RC deliveries that are a few years old.
In addition isn't there a minimum requirement for hose as well on a quint?In reply to RCL, NFPA 1901 requires a minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders for aerial apparatus, 85 ft for a quint.
I think it had to do with storage ability. From the pictures I remember seeing, the units over 135 didn't have any storage or very little. So it may well have been no ground ladder storage that killed them. They also had a 2nd steer axle which changes a lot of things. Including crew cab options and storage.In reply to RCL, NFPA 1901 requires a minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders for aerial apparatus, 85 ft for a quint.