9/3/25 Manhattan 10-77 Box 1446

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221 E 122nd St off 3rd Ave
FIRE APT 1902 35 STORY 70X70
Rundown
E58 E37 E39 E91 E47 E60
TL14 L-40 L-29 TL-22
Rescue 3
Squad 41
BN11 bn10 bn17
DIV-3
Field Com
Rescue BN
Safety BN
Rac2
Rac BN
We have 1 10-45 code 1 19:34 hours
Primary and secondary searches are negative
Someone in cardiac arrest person is DOA
They found another possible fire in apartment 2301
Fire under control 20:06 hrs by chief almonte
Relocations
L45 act. L14
B19 act. B12
L128 act. L26
B7 act. B11
E307 act. E35
E34 act. E37
E16 act. E58
L130 act. L40
 
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fdnyqueens_buff said:
221 E 122nd St off 3rd Ave
FIRE APT 1902 35 STORY 70X70
Rundown
E58 E37 E39 E91 E47 E60
TL14 L-40 L-29 TL-22
Rescue 3
Squad 41
BN11 bn10 bn17
DIV-3
Field Com
Rescue BN
Safety BN
Rac2
Rac BN
10-45 code 1 19:34 hours
Someone in cardiac arrest person is DOA
They found another possible fire in apartment 2301
Fire under control 20:06 hrs by chief almonte
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Box loaded up due to calls
L43 assigned
E35 unavailable (relocated to E8), L26 initially unavailable, B12/E59/L30 unavailable (Box 7-5 1627), E53 unavailable (Box 1332)

B14 gave 10-77, fire 19th floor

B14 gave All Hands - 1 L/S/O

L26F, E47 HRN, E60 CFRD, B17 S

D3: (1) 10-45 No Code

FC: as per D3, the 10-45 is Code 1

FC: as per D3, UC (Duration 1 hr. 6 min.)

L45 act. L14
B19 act. B12
L128 act. L26
B7 act. B11
E307 act. E35
E34 act. E37
E16 act. E58
L130 act. L40
 
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During the “War Years”, we, L114, would be turned out for some 1400 & 2600 boxes for work, that were actually L14’ boxes & other Manhattan & Bronx companies. Somehow, boro CO’s being so busy & transmission lines getting crossed, it happened. Probably those companies were sent out to our boxes, too.
On occasion we’d hear fire traffic on the air from Philly. Crazy.
 
den114 said:
During the “War Years”, we, L114, would be turned out for some 1400 & 2600 boxes for work, that were actually L14’ boxes & other Manhattan & Bronx companies. Somehow, boro CO’s being so busy & transmission lines getting crossed, it happened. Probably those companies were sent out to our boxes, too.
On occasion we’d hear fire traffic on the air from Philly. Crazy.
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Great story 114.

Reminds me of friends on the Bridgeport, CT, FD at the time. The BFD was on the same frequency as the Queen's CO. Late at night Bridgeport Engine 4 would be roused out to respond to a box in Queens until they figured it out.
 
From my post On The Platform Brooklyn CO might explain how 114 could be answering East Harlem boxes. The Manhattan CO telegraph register is directly behind the dispatch area (running cards, prehistoric status board, Morse Key, bell tower). Maybe the dispatchers standing there thought they were counting a Brooklyn 1400 series box when they were actually hearing Manhattan striking a 1400 series box. And the Bronx register was right there also. Things can get hectic and it could get difficult to sort out. When I was there in 1968, at one instant there were five box circuits "running" simultaneously.
 

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From my post On The Platform Brooklyn CO might explain how 114 could be answering East Harlem boxes. The Manhattan CO telegraph register is directly behind the dispatch area (running cards, prehistoric status board, Morse Key, bell tower). Maybe the dispatchers standing there thought they were counting a Brooklyn 1400 series box when they were actually hearing Manhattan striking a 1400 series box. And the Bronx register was right there also. Things can get hectic and it could get difficult to sort out. When I was there in 1968, at one instant there were five box circuits "running" simultaneously.
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Does 5 box circuits running simultaneously mean 5 boxes out at the same exact time across the city?
 
kidfrmqns said:
Does 5 box circuits running simultaneously mean 5 boxes out at the same exact time across the city?
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Means Brooklyn dispatchers are looking at a minimum of at least (assuming succession, non-interfering type) five boxes coming in on five different box circuits at the same exact time. You try counting them. That On The Platform post has a picture of several circuits transmitting. It's not the greatest; but what do you expect with a disposable Kodak camera shot taken in a hurry 57 years ago?

I was under the impression that the Gamewell system used bells of different resonance for each circuit so that one could tell them apart.
 
entropychaser said:
Means Brooklyn dispatchers are looking at a minimum of at least (assuming succession, non-interfering type) five boxes coming in on five different box circuits at the same exact time. You try counting them. That On The Platform post has a picture of several circuits transmitting. It's not the greatest; but what do you expect with a disposable Kodak camera shot taken in a hurry 57 years ago?

I was under the impression that the Gamewell system used bells of different resonance for each circuit so that one could tell them apart.
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Thanks. Did the gamewell system print out a tape the dispatcher could refer to or was it all counting the box coming in?
 
kidfrmqns said:
Thanks. Did the gamewell system print out a tape the dispatcher could refer to or was it all counting the box coming in?
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Gamewell had a paper tape register, both in the fire alarm office and in the firehouse. Gamewell also had a geared clock that automatically time stamped the tape between the receiver punch and the take-up reel. These were used in the office. I've got one. It's so heavy I can barely pick it up. It does make a great doorstop.

I never understood why FDNY never used circuit tape registers in the firehouse. It would have saved a lot of phone calls' Maybe it was a patent issue.

FYI: Way back in the day, before automatic transmitters were available and everything was send by "fist"; if the box number on the first and second rounds weren't identical, the operator was said to be playing "ragtime".
 
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