WWII SKID PUMP

JohnnyGage

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I came across this old snapshot of E 258 with a skid pump. What I discovered was in 1943, 412 skid pump (500 gpm) trailers were delivered. They were towed by the engine hose wagon. During World War II, the FDNY used skid pumps to address specific firefighting challenges caused by the war.

These portable pumps would have been needed to protect against potential air raids and other wartime emergencies, mirroring practices in cities like London, where mobile units were essential for augmenting the fire service....But the second photo not sure of what it actually is.
 

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I would say ......1st photo .....skid pump (about the size of a wood pallet is in a trailer behind 258s Pumper

2nd photo.....possibly a much later era FDNY Communication's Unit pieece of equipment
 
68jk09 said:
I would say ......1st photo .....skid pump (about the size of a wood pallet is in a trailer behind 258s Pumper

2nd photo.....possibly a much later era FDNY Communication's Unit pieece of equipment
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Re: 2nd photo, makes sense. thanks JK.
 
First photo is a Seagrave 1929-30 hose wagon. How to tell?...no hose line outlet on passenger side of the rig, only a siamese to feed the deck pipe; also, the bell located directly behind the passenger seat, often connected by a rope to the back step. Firefighters in the jump seat went near deaf from it ringing in their ear. It had a siren made by Sireno of Staten island on the front bumper. E88 had one of these HWs into the 1950s and I would get to sit on it when I was a kid.
Was "skid" the terminology used for pump trailors during WWII? In the late 1800s "jumpers" would be hauled by ladder companies but they consisted of just a hose reel that could be connected directly to a hydrant. The term jumper came from the fact that they bounced along the unpaved roads of that era.
You guys know better than me about a communications trailer.
 
JohnnyGage said:
I came across this old snapshot of E 258 with a skid pump. What I discovered was in 1943, 412 skid pump (500 gpm) trailers were delivered. They were towed by the engine hose wagon. During World War II, the FDNY used skid pumps to address specific firefighting challenges caused by the war.

These portable pumps would have been needed to protect against potential air raids and other wartime emergencies, mirroring practices in cities like London, where mobile units were essential for augmenting the fire service....But the second photo not sure of what it actually is.
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The pic of the Seagrave with the trailer, to me would make a great party rig towing a smoker behind it. Not that trashing a historical piece ff gear should ever be done, but the thought did cross my mind.
 
In March 1943 the department received 191,000 feet of "emergency pump hose", part of an order of 329,600 feet. The hose was for 425 trailer pumps for use in case of incendiary bombing. However, the trailer pumps could not use the hose until adapters were received. It was planned to have the FD Shops make the adapters and have a trailer pump in each firehouse and other facilities.
 
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