11/11/26 Brooklyn 4th Alarm 10-60 Box 3741

City records for 1321 Flatbush Avenue and the lot beside it, 2625 Bedford Avenue (the excavation):

1321 Flatbush: 3 stories, built 1930, a store with 4 apartments above. DOB has no structural complaints or violations on file for it before 11/11/26.

2625 Bedford, next door:
3/13/26 - DOB permit to demolish the one-story building on the lot.
3/20/26 - Class 1 violation: demolition had started without the required overhead protection for the adjacent properties at exposures 2, 3 and 4. Work was ordered stopped.
4/23/26 - Class 1 violation for continuing the demolition under the stop work order ($10,000 penalty). Both violations were later resolved and the order lifted.
6/8/26 - Demolition signed off.
9/9/26 - Permits issued for earth work, foundation and support of excavation, for a new building.
11/11/26 - DOB opened complaints for structural stability at 1321, 1323 and 1325 Flatbush and at 2625 Bedford, plus one at 2625 Bedford for work contrary to approved plans. All are still open.

None of this says what caused the collapse. That is for DOB's investigation.
 
From what Retired Deputy Chief Vincent Dunn Div. 3 states the most likely was a "Tilt Over Collapse" at first. I agree with my old boss. When a building is removed that was attached directly to a building next to it, you have the following problems.
#1 The strutting effect of building removed is no longer there. Buildings in a Row help to support each other. Take one building away and the collapse danger increases.
#2 The Bricks used inbetween attached building are call "Salmon bricks" they are not designed to be exposed to the weather like the "Face Bricks" unsed on wall facing the weather. Salmon bricks are not fired to the same temprature as "Face Bricks" so "Salmon Bricks avbsorb water like porious rocks. When the water absorbed by the "Salmon Brick" freezes the brick and the wall are damaged and the strength of the brick is greafty reduced and that former protected non weather brick wall can fail.
#3 Bricks wall have great strength when weight is placed straight down but have little strength when pushed sideways or taking a load sideways.
#4 If the brick wall leans or bulges outward and it is a bearing wall, like the side wall of this building the whole building will likely collapse.
I had a similar collapse years ago when I was a Lieutenant in TL-21. That Collapse was on 31 St. near 7th Ave. in Manhattan and killed 3 people.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
Skyler Fire said:
Not sure I just know they were asked who had transits
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The FDNY was looking specifically for digital transits. Several Westchester departments were asked (NRFD, Yonkers, Greenville, White Plains and Westchester DES) however no one had one available. I know of several departments that have manual ones however that’s not what was requested.
 
SizeUp said:
Total count of all the units assigned, Box 3741 (final):

Engines: 63
Trucks: 67
Battalions: 30
Division: 1
Rescues: 8 (R-2, 4, 5; reserve R-11, 12, 13, 15; New Rochelle FD Rescue 4)
Squads: 5 (SQ-1, 252, 288, 270; reserve SQ-800)
SOC units: 8 (RB, Collapse Rescue 2, Tac-1, Tac-2, HM-1, HMB, SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor)
Total: 182
Special calls: 154
E: 46, L: 69, B: 28, R: 5, SQ: 5, Tac-1
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Are the reserve Rescues stocked with equipment or is a transfer required? Good job on the total response post.
 
GFD70 said:
The FDNY was looking specifically for digital transits. Several Westchester departments were asked (NRFD, Yonkers, Greenville, White Plains and Westchester DES) however no one had one available. I know of several departments that have manual ones however that’s not what was requested.
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What is a transit? And what makes them digital versus manual?
 
Skyler Fire said:
SQ8 covered Richmond
SQ270 covered Brooklyn
R4 had Queens
SQ18 R1 had Manhattan
R3 SQ41 SQ61 had The Bronx

When SQ270 was called to scene R15 & R12 was in the process of being staffed
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Interesting that Manhattan and Bronx had 5 companies covering and Queens Brooklyn and SI had 3.

When a squad is the only SOC unit it the Borough are their engine responses reduced or are they still an engine in First,Second (sometimes third) due?
 
The Reserve Rescues 11-15 and 6 the SCUBA Gear needs to be added. They are kept locked especially the ones that aren’t kept with the Rescue like 11 and 14. Squad 800 and R6 basically the same thing anything that’s not already on the truck that can be locked is in a crate and the radios and meters are also in RDC
 
mrw said:
What is a transit? And what makes them digital versus manual?
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Transit monitor buildings alignment, structural movement. You hard a point and if it moves you would know if something bay collapse or more ent is happening.
 
lfdlt31 said:
Interesting that Manhattan and Bronx had 5 companies covering and Queens Brooklyn and SI had 3.

When a squad is the only SOC unit it the Borough are their engine responses reduced or are they still an engine in First,Second (sometimes third) due?
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CFR runs are taken off when Squads relocate. But I am pretty sure 1st and 2nd due they have to respond as an engine. Adless it’s a matrix they become a Squad. Some squads have large response areas that they get engines that relocate to them like SQ270, SQ8, and I wanna say SQ61 now? So if a squad is there they have to operate as an engine first.

Squads do everything remember that. During the job on Riverside recently Squad 41 was told to take over the line cause the first and 2nd due engines were out of air. And that was until a 2nd alarm engine got on scene.

New rule was always assign the nearest rescue and squad to every 10-75 so if every squad and rescue is busy and SQ41 goes in as a Engine and SQ8 is the only Squad they are responding as the Squad. Same for Rescue
 
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