10/14/33 Brooklyn 3rd Alarm Box 2242

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Fire Location: 554 Rockaway Pkwy

E-283 gave the 10-75

Fire top floor in a vacant 2 1/2 PD 20 X 75 Class 3 exterior opps only

E-283 we need PD fourthwith. People driving over the supply line. Hydrant is across the street. Extra Engine & Truck 290 & 103

E-283,257,310,231,290s/c
L-170,174,120(Fast),103s/c
B-58, 44
R-2
SQ-252
D-15
RAC-2

B-58 Transmit a 2nd Alarm @06:18

2nd Alarm
E-323,234,233
E-284 w/ Sat. 3
L-123,124 Act. 170s/c
B-38(FF)
B-41(RUL)
B-48(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-2
RM-1
CTU

B-58 we do not have water on the fire @06:19

B-58 start out an additional TL @06:24

L-124 wanna put us on it. Going to be going right by it @06:24

BKD 10-4

D-15 building is fully involved. 3 L/S/O. Setting up a TL @06:27

D-15 setting up a 2nd TL @07:34

FC (2) TLs in Opp. 1 L/S/O. Collapse zone set up. No extension to exposure 4. Roll call conducted. All members accounted for. Searches delayed. DWH @06:50

FC setting up 120 as a TL. L-123 New Fast Truck

FC transmit a 3rd Alarm for relief. Just need the 4 Engines & 2 Trucks @07:13

3rd Alarm
E-220 Act. 283,230 Act. 231,285 Act. 290,227
L-153 Act. 170,166 Act. 174
Car-22F

Relief
E-
L-146
B-

Relocation:
Engine 285 Act. Engine 290
Engine 321 Act. Engine 257
Ladder 153 Act. Ladder 170
Battalion 43 Act. Battalion 58

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Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 554 Rockaway Pkwy

E-283 gave the 10-75

Fire top floor in a vacant 2 1/2 PD 20 X 75 Class 3 exterior opps only

E-283 we need PD fourthwith. People driving over the supply line. Hydrant is across the street. Extra Engine & Truck 290 & 103

E-283,257,310,231,290s/c
L-170,174,120(Fast),103s/c
B-58, 44
R-2
SQ-252
D-15
RAC-2

B-58 Transmit a 2nd Alarm @06:18

2nd Alarm
E-323,234,233
E-284 w/ Sat. 3
L-123,124 Act. 170s/c
B-38(FF)
B-41(RUL)
B-48(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-2
RM-1
CTU

B-58 we do not have water on the fire @06:19

B-58 start out an additional TL @06:24

L-124 wanna put us on it. Going to be going right by it @06:24

BKD 10-4

D-15 building is fully involved. 3 L/S/O. Setting up a TL @06:27

D-15 setting up a 2nd TL @07:34

FC (2) TLs in Opp. 1 L/S/O. Collapse zone set up. No extension to exposure 4. Roll call conducted. All members accounted for. Searches delayed. DWH @06:50

FC setting up 120 as a TL. L-123 New Fast Truck

FC transmit a 3rd Alarm for relief. Just need the 4 Engines & 2 Trucks @07:13

3rd Alarm
E-220 Act. 283,230 Act. 231,285 Act. 290,227
L-153 Act. 170,166 Act. 174
Car-22F

Relocation:
Engine 285 Act. Engine 290
Engine 321 Act. Engine 257
Ladder 153 Act. Ladder 170
Battalion 43 Act. Battalion 58

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Just curious, did the citywide tour commander not respond because of Relief Only for the 3rd? Maybe he didn’t go 10-84? Unusual not to see the staff chief not on a 3rd.
 
Extra One & One said:
Just curious, did the citywide tour commander not respond because of Relief Only for the 3rd? Maybe he didn’t go 10-84? Unusual not to see the staff chief not on a 3rd.
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I don't know about this call specifically but it seems to be the case that when a greater alarm is transmitted for relief purposes the chief associated with that alarm level doesn't necessarily respond. Believe this happened recently where a 4th was given for relief purposes and Car 4 didn't respond. I can see the logic as the difference with a call for relief purposes is that the incident is no longer expanding.
 
The opposite occurred on the 09 /28/23 at a Second alarm in Bronx. Car 4 Chief of Operations attended. Asking why he attended, a reply was received " He was on his way into Work "
 
alycidon said:
The opposite occurred on the 09 /28/23 at a Second alarm in Bronx. Car 4 Chief of Operations attended. Asking why he attended, a reply was received " He was on his way into Work "
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Yes - I believe the department policies are clear that senior chiefs can respond at their discretion to lower alarms on which they are not necessarily assigned
 
I was a new Firefighter assigned to Engine 27 and we responded on the box for a Pier fire on Manhattan's Lower West Side. Enroute a 2nd alarm was transmitted for a very large well involved wooden Pier. When we arrived 1st due the only other unit on the scene was a Staff Chiefs car. The Assistant Chief of Department and later FDNY Fire Commissioner Gus Beekman, saw smoke as he was heading South on the Old West Side Elevated Highway and investigated. Chief Beekman, arrived and told the FDNY Manhattan dispatcher to transmit the Box, followed in under 5 minutes with "transmit a 2nd alarm." The fire went eventually escalated to a 5th alarm and also required 3 fireboats to control. The fire burned at some level for almost a week. Senior Chief's are very much firefighters and live and on 9/11/01 died like true firefighters. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 554 Rockaway Pkwy

E-283 gave the 10-75

Fire top floor in a vacant 2 1/2 PD 20 X 75 Class 3 exterior opps only

E-283 we need PD fourthwith. People driving over the supply line. Hydrant is across the street. Extra Engine & Truck 290 & 103

E-283,257,310,231,290s/c
L-170,174,120(Fast),103s/c
B-58, 44
R-2
SQ-252
D-15
RAC-2

B-58 Transmit a 2nd Alarm @06:18

2nd Alarm
E-323,234,233
E-284 w/ Sat. 3
L-123,124 Act. 170s/c
B-38(FF)
B-41(RUL)
B-48(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-2
RM-1
CTU

B-58 we do not have water on the fire @06:19

B-58 start out an additional TL @06:24

L-124 wanna put us on it. Going to be going right by it @06:24

BKD 10-4

D-15 building is fully involved. 3 L/S/O. Setting up a TL @06:27

D-15 setting up a 2nd TL @07:34

FC (2) TLs in Opp. 1 L/S/O. Collapse zone set up. No extension to exposure 4. Roll call conducted. All members accounted for. Searches delayed. DWH @06:50

FC setting up 120 as a TL. L-123 New Fast Truck

FC transmit a 3rd Alarm for relief. Just need the 4 Engines & 2 Trucks @07:13

3rd Alarm
E-220 Act. 283,230 Act. 231,285 Act. 290,227
L-153 Act. 170,166 Act. 174
Car-22F

Relocation:
Engine 285 Act. Engine 290
Engine 321 Act. Engine 257
Ladder 153 Act. Ladder 170
Battalion 43 Act. Battalion 58

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gr8 pics
 
Phone Alarm Reporting Fire In A Vacant Private Dwelling.

E283 'Urgent': 10-75 The Box, Fire On The Top Floor Of A 2½-Story Vacant Private Dwelling.

BK/B58: TL120 Is Designated Your FAST Truck & Medical Branch Resources Are Responding.

E283: Hydrants Are Across The Street Before. We Need PD Forthwith Before Cars Run Over The Line. s/c An Extra Engine & Truck (E290/L103).

BK: Transmits The All Hands With Request For Extra 1&1.

B58: Transmit The 2nd Alarm. Fire On The Top Floor Of A Flat Roof Private Dwelling. Trucks Are Opening Up, We Do Not Have Water On The Fire.

Exposures:
1: Street
2: Lot
3: Lot
4: 5-Story Multiple Dwelling.

B58: 554 Rockaway Parkway Is The Corrected Address.

BK/B58: B41RUL, B48SO, E284 w/ Satellite 3.

CIDS (Fire Building): 2-Story 20x75 Vacant Class 3 Private Dwelling, Exterior Operations Only.

D15: s/c (1) Additional Tower Ladder (TL124 act. TL170).

BK/D15: The Selected Staging Area Is Rockaway Parkway & Willmohr Street.

D15: Building Is Fully Involved Through The Roof, 3 L/S/O On The Exterior. Checking For Extension Into Exposure 4, (1) Precautionary Line Stretched To Exposure 4. (1) Tower Ladder Set Up & Beginning To Operate, DWH. (Duration 18 Min)

D15: Setting Up A 2nd Tower Ladder, Command Channel Has Been Established. Corrected Address Of Exposure 4 Is 540 Rockaway Parkway (4-Story 75x75 NFP Multiple Dwelling), DWH. (Duration 24 Min)

CIDS (Exposure 4): 4-Story 75x100 Class 3 Multiple Dwelling, NLT.

FC: 1 L/SO, (2) Tower Ladders In Operation. Collapse Zone Has Been Established Around The Building. Exterior Operations, Searches Delayed In The Fire Building. No Extension To Exposure 4, All Members Are Accounted For. DWH. (Duration 40 Min)

FC: 1 L/S/O In The Rear, (2) Tower Ladders In Operation. TL120 Is Now Being Used For Operations, L123 Is Now The FAST Truck. DWH. (Duration 46 Min)

FC: Have OEM & DOB Respond To This Box.

FC: Transmit The 3rd Alarm For Relief Purposes, We Only Need (4) Engines Companies & (2) Ladder Companies.

FC: 1 L/S/O, (2) Tower Ladders In Operation. DWH. (Duration 1hr, 6 Min)

CAR22F: Responding To The 3rd Alarm.

FC: 1 L/S/O, (2) Tower Ladders In Operation. Conditions Remain The Same, DWH. (Duration 1hr, 25 Min)

FC: TL153 Is Now The FAST Truck.

FC: We Need ConEd Electric To Respond, Water In The Cellar Of Exposure 4.

FC: (2) Tower Ladders In Operation. All Fire Has Been Extinguished, PWH. (Duration 1hr, 49 Min)
D15: Under Control. s/c (2) Engines (E280/E???), (1) Tower Ladder (TL146) & (1) Battalion Chief (B??). (Duration 2hr)

D15: 10-41 Code 4, Mixer-Off Message.

Relocations:
TL124 act. TL170
TL105 act. TL120
E230 act. E231
E321 act. E257
E220 act. E283
B43 act. B58
E285 act. E290
B51 act. B44
TL153 act. TL170
E226 act. E234
TL119 act. TL170
E281 act. E283
E245 act. E290
E230 act. E231
L166 act. L174
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Both 318/166 relocated on this night because of separate fires, about 3 hours apart. 166 at least sent into the job on their turn.

245 and the 43 also relocated. A lot of moving around in coney that night.
 
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