11/1/24 Manhattan 6th Alarm / 10-66 Box 1622

So the FAD dispatching referred to this job as a 6th Alarm, and the OPI put out a press release in the same vein. 1000004993.jpg
 
I believe it’s a 6th because when they transmitted the 5th then they did the 10-66 which requires the next higher alarm.
 
THEMAJESTIRIUM1 said:


“{ FDNY BOX 1622 ~ MANHATTAN }”…..”{ FDNY BATTLING A 6TH ALARM FIRE, WITH A MAYDAY RESCUE, IN A MULTIPLE DWELLING ON WEST 145TH STREET IN THE HAMILTON HEIGHTS AREA OF MANHATTAN IN NEW YORK CITY }”…..
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Kudos to you JJ for your use of discretion during the rescue of the fallen member. Prayers to the member for a full and speedy recovery
 
I normally don't post on here, prayers to the injured member ! I was a fireman in that company yrs ago. I also learned a long time ago never to Monday morning quarterback, you never know when you might be next. As far as "Senior" goes, I worked with you, respected you, but sadly, time to remove your tie and enjoy retirement brother!
 
The 11 PM news said FF fell 40 feet in a shaft in the building. Could explain the rapid extension to upper floors and the cockloft.
 
seniorofficer said:
How were they able to let this get away from them? 3:00 pm MBFKD; then fire breaks out on the 5th floor, then fire in the cockloft?
We had many H type MDs in the south Bronx with vertical voids. Fires on lower floors always sent a truck co. to the top floor to check for extension and see if it had gotten into the cockloft. What has changed, and why?? This would hardly ever go to a 5-5 on Watson aAe or Ave.St. John in the 70's.
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Heavy Wind Driven Fire
 
Let's not "Monday Morning Quarterback" until we know more FACTS. These are good companies who still do some real fire duty often. Let us pray for our injured brother and learn from what has happened when we know all the facts. That said I firmly believe a FAST team should include a "FAST Chief". and "R.I.C.E. = Rapid Intervention Company Engine (To stretch any handline/s need to make the rescue and removal safer} and dedicate A.L.S./Rescue Medic Unit = For use only by seriously injured members. Also, large fires require additional F.A.S.T. Teams and an additional Rescue Company before the Mayday! Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26
 
Building on the captain's post above, here is some additional context on the 10-66 signal which may be of interest. The 10-66 signal was developed in the 2000s following numerous fatal fires. The link below features Deputy Chief (ret.) Jon Malkin of Division 14, who was the initial IC at the 2001 Father's Day Fire. Chief Malkin discusses the challenges of calling for additional resources on a one-by-one basis during a mayday situation, and how the 10-66 signal has been a major improvement given that it automatically sends a large amount of resources, in theory everything the IC may need to deal with the incident. The discussion on the development of the 10-66 begins at the 30:00 minute mark, but the entire episode is a very interesting discussion of the Father's Day Fire. RIP to those who were lost that day. Perhaps some of the improvements that followed contributed to what sounds like a relatively good outcome in yesterday's fire.

 
Captain784 said:
Let's not "Monday Morning Quarterback" until we know more FACTS. These are good companies who still do some real fire duty often. Let us pray for our injured brother and learn from what has happened when we know all the facts. That said I firmly believe a FAST team should include a "FAST Chief". and "R.I.C.E. = Rapid Intervention Company Engine (To stretch any handline/s need to make the rescue and removal safer} and dedicate A.L.S./Rescue Medic Unit = For use only by seriously injured members. Also, large fires require additional F.A.S.T. Teams and an additional Rescue Company before the Mayday! Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26
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EMS bosses usually keep an rm standing by.
 
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