12/12/22 Manhattan 10-76 Box 847

[Signal73]

Fire Location: 30 Rockefeller Plz

Fire in the duct work on the 8th floor of a 70 story office building

E-54,65,8,23,21s/c,5s/c,4s/c,22s/c
E-26(C.F.R.D)
E-40(Lobby)
E-7(Comm)
E-3 w/ H.R 1
L-4,2,24(Fast)
L-21,16,35,7,9 Act. 7s/c,12s/c,45s/c,128s/c
L-10(Fast)s/c,
B-9,8,7*,6,2,10(Safety),1*s/c,14s/c
R-1
Sq-18
D-3
Rac-1
RB,SB
FC
RM-1
Mask
Tac-1

*ABC


Late to the party don't have much info...But that's a lot of special called units. Rather than making it a greater alarm

 

[8060rock]

05:09 - came in as a Class 3 alarm (1E, 1T & 1 BC assigned)

05:21 - investigating smoke alarm from 8th floor duct

05:25 - B9: fill out the assignment, L4 reports smoke condition on 8th floor

05:27 - B9 gave 10-76, duct fire in cafeteria area on 8th floor

05:37 - D3: I see a number of extra Trucks on the Box, was that called for by B9
05:37 - MD: per dispatch policy for Mega Hi-Rise b'ldgs. (2) add'l Trucks & (1) add'l BC are assigned

05:58 - D3: 1 L/S/O, AVFKD, continuing searches

06:10 - FC: s/c (1) BC (B1 act. B9)

06:17 - FC: MBFKD, checking smoke conditions on 8th, 9th, 10th floors, PWH

06:21 - FC: s/c (2) Trucks (L9 act. L7, L12)

06:33 - FC: Car15A places fire UC (duration 1 hr. 25 min.), s/c (2) Engines (E21, E5)

06:39 - FC: s/c (1) Truck (L10F) to replace FT

07:00 - FC: s/c (2) engines (E4, E22), (2) Trucks (L45, L128) & 1 BC (B14) for relief


L26 act. L2
L28 act. L4
E37 act. E54
E91 act. E8
B40 act. B2
B45 act. B9
B28 act. B8
E76 act. E23
B1 act. B9
L9 act. L7
L117 act. L7

 

[Extra One & One]

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Let me start by saying, I wasn’t there. I am sure the chiefs have a MUCH better handle on the situation than I could ever hope to achieve!

With that being said, I am very curious why they special called so many units instead of transmitting a second alarm? I hope someone can shed some light on it just for learning purposes.

I am wondering if it was because they knew they weren’t going to need the 2nd Deputy, Air Recon Chief, or the 2nd Rescue? Those alone are a commitment of resources that may have not been necessary, but again, I defer to the chiefs.

 

[eng65ine]

E-65 should be first due.

 

[Signal73]

E-65 should be first due.

It had 54 1st due for the Class 3

 

[DCFDcar33]

Answering 1&1 in part, from the call log: “
05:37 - D3: I see a number of extra Trucks on the Box, was that called for by B9
05:37 - MD: per dispatch policy for Mega Hi-Rise b'ldgs. (2) add'l Trucks & (1) add'l BC are assigned”. Correct?

 

[Extra One & One]

Answering 1&1 in part, from the call log: “
05:37 - D3: I see a number of extra Trucks on the Box, was that called for by B9
05:37 - MD: per dispatch policy for Mega Hi-Rise b'ldgs. (2) add'l Trucks & (1) add'l BC are assigned”. Correct?

I see that, thank you.

Also I see the log provided by 8060 Rock. All the Special Call engines were called after the Under Control was given. Ladders and Battalions can be called in any number “until the cows come home” without striking another alarm.

 

[Skyler Fire]

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Let me start by saying, I wasn’t there. I am sure the chiefs have a MUCH better handle on the situation than I could ever hope to achieve!

With that being said, I am very curious why they special called so many units instead of transmitting a second alarm? I hope someone can shed some light on it just for learning purposes.

I am wondering if it was because they knew they weren’t going to need the 2nd Deputy, Air Recon Chief, or the 2nd Rescue? Those alone are a commitment of resources that may have not been necessary, but again, I defer to the chiefs.
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2nd Alarm 10-76 gives a Extra Rescue, Squad, Division and a lot more units then normal since it’s a commercial high rise and it’s a Mega High Rise.