12/2/14 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3017
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Around 3:45AM
Kitchen fire in a PD - heavy smoke condition
Brook Avenue off of Hylan Blvd
Engine 167 is 4th due
Rescue 5 and Squad 1 on the AH
Battalion 21 on the 10-75
"Ticket To Ride" Engine 162 / Ladder 82 / Battalion 23 First Due
This box and area, even though 162/82/23 are first due, always is a toss up on who shows up first. It's a nice run for both 162/82/23 and 165/85.
http://www.silive.com/eastshore/index.ssf/2014/12/all-hands_fire_in_oakwood_earl.html#incart_river
Kitchen fire in a PD - heavy smoke condition
Brook Avenue off of Hylan Blvd
Engine 167 is 4th due
Rescue 5 and Squad 1 on the AH
Battalion 21 on the 10-75
"Ticket To Ride" Engine 162 / Ladder 82 / Battalion 23 First Due
This box and area, even though 162/82/23 are first due, always is a toss up on who shows up first. It's a nice run for both 162/82/23 and 165/85.
http://www.silive.com/eastshore/index.ssf/2014/12/all-hands_fire_in_oakwood_earl.html#incart_river
162/82 has direct route up Hylan Blvd. They would get in much quicker even though distances are about the same.
165/85 has to use Amboy Rd and Tysens Lane - much slower. Also cannot cross Hylan because of barrier as StAjo pointed out. Maybe they respond up S Railroad Ave to avoid the Hylan Blvd highway divider, but that is a slow route too. Oakwood Beach area is another SI neighborhood that is not close to any SI firehouse.
165/85 has to use Amboy Rd and Tysens Lane - much slower. Also cannot cross Hylan because of barrier as StAjo pointed out. Maybe they respond up S Railroad Ave to avoid the Hylan Blvd highway divider, but that is a slow route too. Oakwood Beach area is another SI neighborhood that is not close to any SI firehouse.
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STAjo, Mack is right. The route 162/82/23 would take on Hylan Blvd is a direct shot. 165/85 has a lot more tight and congested streets to cover, with the SI traffic as bad as it is they can be pretty delayed from that alone (although this job was at 4AM). There is also the infamous barrier on Hylan that you noticed, gotta go around that. Mack is right they would probably take Amboy Road and a street to come down to cross Hylan, the Chesterton route you were talking about STAjo.
The reality is that this area, like Mack said, is far from most houses. Its just one of those areas. If you look at the Unit Location Map on this site, you will see the distance for even 3rd and 4th due companies such as 159, 167 and 87. Quite the trips for them.
I remember E162/L082 responding to a pull box in the Oakwood area, not too far from this box, came over in quarters as first due but there was some question on who would actually arrive first, E165/T085 being a close 2nd due. 162/82 arrives at the box simultaneously as 165/85. 162 handled the pull box and quickly went 10-8, 165/85 went 10-8 first, they didn't stick around for too long.
This area does also have a lot of dead ends like you pointed out, all residential. Great Kills Park is right behind these blocks so every so often when they catch a multiple alarm brush job in the park these blocks fill up with all units for blocks and blocks. A seasonal thing for these residents in the area.
The reality is that this area, like Mack said, is far from most houses. Its just one of those areas. If you look at the Unit Location Map on this site, you will see the distance for even 3rd and 4th due companies such as 159, 167 and 87. Quite the trips for them.
I remember E162/L082 responding to a pull box in the Oakwood area, not too far from this box, came over in quarters as first due but there was some question on who would actually arrive first, E165/T085 being a close 2nd due. 162/82 arrives at the box simultaneously as 165/85. 162 handled the pull box and quickly went 10-8, 165/85 went 10-8 first, they didn't stick around for too long.
This area does also have a lot of dead ends like you pointed out, all residential. Great Kills Park is right behind these blocks so every so often when they catch a multiple alarm brush job in the park these blocks fill up with all units for blocks and blocks. A seasonal thing for these residents in the area.
In believable the distance that the SI companies have to travel to a 1st box !!! The distance is even greater for second and 3rd companies !!! I live in great kills and have seen 1st hand how long 1st due companies operate alone before second and 3rd due companies arrive !!!