If avaliable TL 146 is assigned 4th due truckSurprised no 146 …out on a run?
True we never should have left Seigel St.....at the time (1971) it seemed like there would be more work West of the new Qtrs but in actuality Bushwick was really taking off & we lost a lot in that direction as well as some Bed Stuy Boxes.This is the cause of the Brooklyn's truckless triangle, when they took Ladder 108 from the middle of the triangle and placed them in an area filled with double houses.
For sure being couple blocks west of 237 & 218 & north of 230, u guys lost a lot of those bushwick boxesTrue we never should have left Siegel St.....at the time (1971) it seemed like there would be more work West of the new Qtrs but in actuality Bushwick was really taking off & we lost a lot in that direction as well as some Bed Stuy Boxes.
No ...more so the age of the 2 FH's was the reason for the move......that project was going on 10 yrs before the move....also prior to the move both original Single FH's bracketed the 16 acre Lindsay Park Housing site....108 2 blocks from the Eastern edge & 216 2 blocks from the Northern edge......neither old FH was in the Lindsay Park Houses footprint .....the new FH was across the street from the Western edge......the demolished 16 acre Lindsay Park site as well as the later 1970 demo site for the new Woodhull Hosp. a few blocks away both had almost every type of construction in them...Wood Frames ....Brick bldgs...Old & New Law Tenements.....Factories....Synagogues .... & a Movie Theater.....there were many Fires during demo as workers recd premium pay if a bldg was Fire damaged....many of the Fires from both sites were chronicled in Alex Donchin's excellent pictorial book "FIRST DUE"..... FIRST DUE by Alex DonchinWasn't that move by E216 and Ll08 due to the construction of the Lindsey Park Project?
l have that book " FlRST DUE " all black & white photos.No ...more so the age of the 2 FH's was the reason for the move......that project was going on 10 yrs before the move....also prior to the move both original Single FH's bracketed the 16 acre Lindsay Park Housing site....108 2 blocks from the Eastern edge & 216 2 blocks from the Northern edge......neither old FH was in the Lindsay Park Houses footprint .....the new FH was across the street from the Western edge......the demolished 16 acre Lindsay Park site as well as the later 1970 demo site for the new Woodhull Hosp. a few blocks away both had almost every type of construction in them...Wood Frames ....Brick bldgs...Old & New Law Tenements.....Factories....Synagogues .... & a Movie Theater.....there were many Fires during demo as workers recd premium pay if a bldg was Fire damaged....many of the Fires from both sites were chronicled in Alex Donchin's excellent pictorial book "FIRST DUE"..... FIRST DUE by Alex Donchin
Chief, I find it very interesting to learn of how fires in the 60's and 70's effected the makeup of neighborhoods. I was looking on the map at the Seigel St area and I see Seigel Court. Were those house on Seigel Court constructed after 108 moved to Union?No ...more so the age of the 2 FH's was the reason for the move......that project was going on 10 yrs before the move....also prior to the move both original Single FH's bracketed the 16 acre Lindsay Park Housing site....108 2 blocks from the Eastern edge & 216 2 blocks from the Northern edge......neither old FH was in the Lindsay Park Houses footprint .....the new FH was across the street from the Western edge......the demolished 16 acre Lindsay Park site as well as the later 1970 demo site for the new Woodhull Hosp. a few blocks away both had almost every type of construction in them...Wood Frames ....Brick bldgs...Old & New Law Tenements.....Factories....Synagogues .... & a Movie Theater.....there were many Fires during demo as workers recd premium pay if a bldg was Fire damaged....many of the Fires from both sites were chronicled in Alex Donchin's excellent pictorial book "FIRST DUE"..... FIRST DUE by Alex Donchin
The origins of the truckless triangle reach back even earlier. Engine 285 and Ladder 133, planned for 1196 Metropolitan Ave, were delayed due to budgetary/construction issues in 1913. Engine 206, which was being disbanded from Pearl Street in downtown Brooklyn, took 285's new firehouse, bumping 285 to Queens. Ladder 133 never went in service in Brooklyn as planned. They also went to Queens but 85 years later.This is the cause of the Brooklyn's truckless triangle, when they took Ladder 108 from the middle of the triangle and placed them in an area filled with double houses.