12/6/22 Bronx 2nd Alarm Box 3144

[Signal73]

Fire Location: 519 East 180th St

B-18 gave the 10-75 @04:11

Heavy smoke condition. Trying to locate the fire in a row of tax payers

B-18 All Hands @04:18

E-88,46,48,42,45s/c
L-38,27,56(Fast),58s/c
B-18,19
R-3
Sq-61
D-7
Rac-3

D-7 extra Engine & Truck still searching for the fire 2 L/S.

D-7 Transmit the 2nd Alarm for Box 3144 @04:37

2nd Alarm
E-38 Act. 45,75,43,47 Act. 38
E-72 w/ Sat. 2
L-33
B-26(FF)
B-27(RUL)
B-17(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM-1
CTU

D-7 fire in the rear shaft of a taxpayer @04:38

*Staging 3rd Ave * East 179th St

L-31 Act. 58 10-8 in their area @ 04:44

D-7 3 L/S/O. Trucks still opening up. DWH @04:51

D-7 AVKFD. Trucks continuing to open up @ 05:06

B-45 Act. 17 on your frequency @ 05:07

FC per D-7 3 L/S/O PWH @05:18

FC per D-7 Under Control @05:43

Relocations:
Engine 68 Act. Engine 43
Engine 80 Act. Engine 75
Engine 47 Act. Engine 38
Engine 38 Act. Engine 45
Ladder 31 Act. Ladder 58
Battalion 45 Act, Battalion 17

 

[FDNY Response Videos]

E-38 Act. 45,75,43,47 Act. 38

Engine 47 Act. Engine 38
Engine 38 Act. Engine 45

Interesting that 38 got relocated to 45 and 47 relocated to 38 and also got on the 2nd alarm.

47 must have been responding to the relocation and close to the job since you wouldn’t think 38 would be normally assigned on the 2nd alarm for this box.

 

[Signal73]

Normal 2nd Alarm
45-75-43-50

 

[THEMAJESTIRIUM1]

“{ FDNY BOX 3144 ~ BRONX }”…..”{ FDNY BATTLING A 2ND ALARM FIRE IN A TAXPAYER ON EAST 180TH STREET IN THE BATHGATE AREA OF THE BRONX IN NEW YORK CITY }”…..

 

[Skyler Fire]

 

[tommyhal&oat]

Interesting that 38 got relocated to 45 and 47 relocated to 38 and also got on the 2nd alarm.

47 must have been responding to the relocation and close to the job since you wouldn’t think 38 would be normally assigned on the 2nd alarm for this box.

31 to 58 truck another interesting relocation

 

[3511]

As a kid in the 1950s I remember my father explaining to me that the Washington DC Fire department handled its relocation program differently than the FDNY. Upon receipt of the report of a working fire the DCFD began jumping units forward as relocators towards the incident. They not only provided coverage for the vacant areas of the working companies but also a rapid response if additional help was needed there. Sure enough, a couple of years later WNYF published an article about the DCFD that explained that policy. Once again the old man was right. ( I'm sure Mack has that article at his fingertips.)
As one who even then was interested in the concept of "force deployment", it made sense. And as my military career later taught me, why have your reserve force sitting comfortably at the rear CP when they were needed out on the perimeter?
So this recent change to the relocation policy makes a lot of sense to me. E47 passing thru on the way to E38?... Get your a** over to 3rd Avenue and help out where it's needed right now. L31, just down the road from L58, move forward, its a "taxpayer” fire, we're probably gonna need you.
I don't know what Staff chief recommended this change to relocation procedures but I sure in hell would like to meet him. This may be one of the best policy changes in over a century designed to protect the firefighters out on the line.

 

[FDNY Response Videos]

The members seem to agree with this sentiment too. Some members from a relocated truck company assigned on the 2nd alarm for the recent 5th alarm in Manhattan were talking about how they are glad relocators are finally being utilized rather than sitting idly in the firehouse down the block while other rigs respond from miles away.