3/22/26 Queens 2nd Alarm Crash Box 0037

[NYBravest82]

How's in the hell does this happen?!?!

 

[RCL]

How's in the hell does this happen?!?!

Having worked the ramp at Kennedy and looked at least on the surface at several recent incidents, theres a few different ways it could happen. I dont want to speculate, until some more facts come out. And theres more near misses and incident on the ground that make the rounds.

 

[FFM1938]

How's in the hell does this happen?!?!

Starting to read into it, it sure sounds like there was one controller in the tower running the whole show at the time of the incident. Not saying thats the case until the facts are in, but if its true he was running ground ops, working a smoke in cabin emergency and approach at the same time. Thats a hell of a workload for one person.

 

[seniorofficer]

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Does anyone know when these were taken? Were these initial photos, or after the tail was raised? Other shots show the tail on the ground.

 

[seniorofficer]

Wouldn't FAA be part of the mix as far as responsibility? Generally, evening departures supposedly cease after 2330 hours. The only activity, I'm told is the occasional incoming flight after midnight.. That being the case, why would FAA allow only ONE ATC in the tower before the midnight change in airport activity?

 

[entropychaser]

Who shut down the engines?

 

[CVILLE7111]

UNITS

PHONE - 1ST - PUBLIC BUILDING - DISP PLY 9E + 4L
E307, E312, E289, E292, E325P, E262P, E260P, E044H, E316T, E324T, E072T, E207T, E096T,
L154, T117, T138F, T163, L136, BC49, BC45P, BC28, BC12R, BC14S, DC13, RM01, MB01, MK01, HM01, RS03, H316, Q288, ST04, MR06, TS01, RS01, FC01, MR01, ST02, ST06, F096, RB01, HB01, SB01, RA03

ASSIGN SPECIFIC UNIT
E238T, RS04, C008, C16A, C16B, C23A, MT01, C11F, C23D, SP01

2ND ALARM
CT01

CADS-related question. The “cars” show up on a ticket?

 

[Signal73]

Yes as well as the CAD

 

[raybrag]

From NBC News: Control tower recording contains the following comment from an air traffic controller: "I messed up". I hope this isn't true, but if it is, that controller needs our prayers, along with his/her union rep and a good lawyer.

 

[RCL]

Wouldn't FAA be part of the mix as far as responsibility? Generally, evening departures supposedly cease after 2330 hours. The only activity, I'm told is the occasional incoming flight after midnight.. That being the case, why would FAA allow only ONE ATC in the tower before the midnight change in airport activity?

I beleive so. There was questions about similar manning in Washington when the helo hit the commuter plane last year.