3/23/2023 Manhattan 2nd Alarm 10-76 Box 0198

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Address: 137 Grand Street - between Crosby and Lafayette Streets

Fire on the 5th floor of a 7 story 35x90 commercial.

0935 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the box. Smoke in the HVAC system on the 5th floor.

0936 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the 10-75. Fire in the ceiling on the 5th floor.

L-8 FAST

0939 - Div. 1 - Extra Engine and Truck (E-6, H&L-6). All Hands

0941 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the 10-76.

0942 - Div. 1 - Give me a 2nd Alarm.

0945 - Div. 1 - 2 L/S/O. Fire on the 5th floor with extension to the 6th. We have a burst standpipe and are doing a hand stretch.

0959 - Div. 1 - Primaries on the floor above are negative. 3 L/S/O. Other searches are underway.

1005 - Div. 1 - Can we get 2 extra Trucks for relief (H&L-118 act. H&L-20, TL-21 act. TL-1).

1007 - Div. 1 - Searches are still in progress.

1018 - FC - Car 13A is assuming command. Special call 2 additional Ladder companies (L-11, L-3).

1019 - FC - Per car 13A, special call 2 additional Ladder companies (L-113 act. L-6, L-10).

1022 - FC - You can return the Air Recon.

1027 - FC - 3 L/S/O, AVFKD. Trucks continue to open up. Primaries are complete and negative. PWH - Duration 1 hour 2 minutes.

1037 - FC - Secondaries are complete and negative. Under Control - Duration 1 hour 11 minutes.

Maybe:
E-55, 7, 9, 24, 6 s/c, 33 CFRD, 14 Lobby, 279 Communications
L-20, 1, 8F, 6 s/c, 5, 105 Vent Support
B-2, 4, 6, 7 Safety
S-18
R-1
D-1
RAC-1
FC, SB, RB, Tac 1
E-3 w/ High Rise 1

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-15, 28, 10, 4
L-9, 18, 118 act. 20 s/c, 21 act. 1 s/c, 11 s/c, 3 s/c, 113 act. 6 s/c, 10 s/c
B-9, 31, 8 RUL, 33 Air Recon
R-2
D-11
MSU
E-207 w/ Sat 6
Car 12C, Car 13A, Car 16C

Relocators:
E-16 act. E-55
E-40 act. E-24
E-221 act. E-14
E-238 act. E-10
E-241 act. E-33
E-330 act. E-207
TL-21 act. TL-1
H&L-118 act. H&L-20
L-113 act. H&L-6
TL-13 act. TL-9
L-25 act. L-8
S-41 act. R-1
B-45 act. B-1
B-40 act. B-6
B-28 act. B-2
 
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firephish said:
Address: 137 Grand Street - between Crosby and Lafayette Streets

Fire on the 5th floor of a 7 story 35x90 commercial.

0935 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the box. Smoke in the HVAC system on the 5th floor.

0936 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the 10-75. Fire in the ceiling on the 5th floor.

L-8 FAST

0939 - Div. 1 - Extra Engine and Truck (E-6, H&L-6). All Hands

0941 - Bn. 2 - Transmit the 10-76.

0942 - Div. 1 - Give me a 2nd Alarm.

0945 - Div. 1 - 2 L/S/O. Fire on the 5th floor with extension to the 6th. We have a burst standpipe and are doing a hand stretch.

0959 - Div. 1 - Primaries on the floor above are negative. 3 L/S/O. Other searches are underway.

1005 - Div. 1 - Can we get 2 extra Trucks for relief (H&L-118 act. H&L-20, TL-21 act. TL-1).

1007 - Div. 1 - Searches are still in progress.

1018 - FC - Car 13A is assuming command. Special call 2 additional Ladder companies (L-11, L-3).

1019 - FC - Per car 13A, special call 2 additional Ladder companies (L-113 act. L-6, L-10).

1022 - FC - You can return the Air Recon.

Maybe:
E-55, 7, 9, 24, 6 s/c, 33 CFRD, 14 Lobby, 279 Communications
L-20, 1, 8F, 6 s/c, 5, 105 Vent Support
B-2, 4, 6, 7 Safety
S-18
R-1
D-1
RAC-1
FC, SB, RB, Tac 1
E-3 w/ High Rise 1

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-16, 28, 10, 4
L-9, 18, 118 act. 20 s/c, 21 act. 1 s/c, 11 s/c, 3 s/c, 113 act. 6 s/c, 10 s/c
B-9, 31, 8 RUL, 33 Air Recon
R-2
D-11
MSU
E-207 w/ Sat 6
Car 12C, Car 13A, Car 16C

Relocators:
E-16 act. E-55
E-40 act. E-24
E-221 act. E-14
E-238 act. E-10
E-241 act. E-33
E-330 act. E-207
TL-21 act. TL-1
H&L-118 act. H&L-20
L-113 act. H&L-6
S-41 act. R-1
B-45 act. B-1
B-40 act. B-6
B-28 act. B-2
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Is there any additional information on this job, like PWH, or under control time?
 
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firebuffkevin said:
Why R2 on the second alarm?
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  • 10-76A notification signal transmitted when, in the judgment of the Incident Commander, conditions indicate a fire in a high-rise commercial building requires a total response of the following units:
    • 4 Engine companies
    • 4 Ladder companies
    • 4 Battalion Chiefs
    • 1 Deputy Chief
    • 1 Rescue company
    • 1 Squad company
    • 1 CFR-D Engine company
    • 1 FAST Unit
    • 1 - Communications Unit
    • 1 Field Communications Unit
    • 1 Mask Service Unit
    • 1 Safety Operating Battalion
    • 1 Rescue Operations Battalion
    • 1 Safety Officer
    • 1 High-Rise Support Unit
    • 1 Tactical Support Unit
    • 1 Recuperation and Care unit
    • 1 Public Information Officer
    • 1 Lobby/Systems Control Unit
  • 10-76 2nd ALARMA notification signal transmitted when, in the judgment of the Incident Commander, conditions indicate a fire in a high-rise commercial building requires, in addition to the units assigned on a 10-76, a total response of the following units:
    • 4 Engine companies
    • 2 Ladder companies
    • 3 Battalion Chiefs
    • 1 Deputy Chief
    • 1 Rescue company
    • 1 Satellite Unit
 
After Bn. 2 asked for the 10-76, Div. 1 told dispatch "instead of the 10-76, make it a 10-75 & give me a 2nd Alarm" perhaps the dispatcher didn't copy that transmission or proceeded with the 10-76 per protocol ?
 
I thought 10-76 was for a building that is fully commercial. Do mixed occupancy generally fall under 10-76 or 10-77? Looking at photos, seems like a mixed occupancy.
 
rangermsg1 said:
I thought 10-76 was for a building that is fully commercial. Do mixed occupancy generally fall under 10-76 or 10-77? Looking at photos, seems like a mixed occupancy.
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It’s “ALL BUILDINGS 75 feet or more in height”.

That’s how it’s worded in Comms 8.
 
rangermsg1 said:
I thought 10-76 was for a building that is fully commercial. Do mixed occupancy generally fall under 10-76 or 10-77? Looking at photos, seems like a mixed occupancy.
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might have to do whats on the floor below fire floor or floor above . they could ask for a 10-76 and s/c a vent support , a high rise nozzle , or they can transmit a 10-77 and S/c a lobby and a comms
 
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