3/5/23 Bronx 5th Alarm Box 4794

[8060rock]

S/C UNITS
E.315-29521-79
L.12-138-23-144 & 19
B/C 6 & 28

L12? no

 

[Derekbgs08]

Is there an official reason for that? Curious.

Your curiosity is as good as mines, maybe one of the other fellas on here knows why. It is my understanding that 5th alarm was always officially supposed to be the highest alarm

 

[den114]

Your curiosity is as good as mines, maybe one of the other fellas on here knows why. It is my understanding that 5th alarm was always officially supposed to be the highest alarm

I believe there was a 6th in a row of stores in Queens. Not sure of year.

 

[Signal73]

 

[raybrag]

A massive fire is being fought by firefighters at a Bronx apartment complex, throwing smoke hundreds of feet into the air

A LARGE FIRE that triggered three alarms has been reported at a Bronx building.

fox5now.com

 

[Derekbgs08]

I believe there was a 6th in a row of stores in Queens. Not sure of year.

This change was made sometime after the 8th alarm in queens in April 2021, as that is the last 5th alarm+++ fire I have in my notes.

 

[raybrag]

Pix from Alertpage . . .

 

[Captain784]

We have been here before back in 1970 there was a Fire and major Collapse, (7-7 4-4 658) 7-7 = Brooklyn Boro. Piliminary 4-4 = 4th Alarm Box 1658 at Chester and East New York Avenues, in Brownsville. At that time, there was not to be anything above a 4th alarm., but the Fire and major Collapse in vacant warehouse went to, I think 8 Engines above a 4th Alarm and "No" 5 or 6th Alarm was ever transmitted. See W.N.Y.F. 2nd or 3rd.
1970. Some photos from WNYF Below. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 Retired

elow.

 

[Captain784]

Your curiosity is as good as mines, maybe one of the other fellas on here knows why. It is my understanding that 5th alarm was always officially supposed to be the highest alarm

In theory a 5th Alarm is the highest you can transmitted any one NYC Borough. Above a 5th in any one Borough "What was once called is a Borough or Simultaneous calls was sounded. Bringing units from another NYC Borough to the fire." The 1st. World Trade Center attack in 1997, was 23 Alarms. For the record the 9/11/01 World Trade Center attack was Equal to 27 Alarms and included some Mutal Aid F.D. units from New Jersey.
I responded to both W.T.C. Attacks. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 Retired.

 

[alycidon]

Looking at the special calls for further engines and ladders,since the fifth alarm was transmitted this is definitely a sixth alarm fire in the old system.

 

[Dwbuffs]

Any further progress reports

 

[8060rock]

Any further progress reports

it's current -just what's posted

 

[LLIB]

Looking at the special calls for further engines and ladders,since the fifth alarm was transmitted this is definitely a sixth alarm fire in the old system.

MAYBE EVEN 7 IHAVE 9xE 10Xt 2XTL IF MY # IS CORRECT

 

[Captain784]

Is there an official reason for that? Curious.

Not official but it seems that NYC is trying to play down the number of serious fires lately.

 

[LLIB]

? FOR THE FDNY EXPERTS, IN THE OLD SYSTEM HOW MANY ALARMS WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN?
7 OR 8?

 

[grumpy grizzly]

Address: 2096 Grand Concourse

1 story Taxpayer, 100'x 125' Class 3
Report of a fire

E75, 48, 46, 42, 82 s/c
L33, 56, 27F, 59 s/c, 51 act. 33 s/c
B19, 17
S41
R3
D7
RAC3
HM1, HMB, E44 HazTech unit

B19 gave 10-75, 1 story taxpayer (10:49)

L27F

D7 gave All Hands (10:57)

D7: E-bikes, have HazMat respond

D7: s/c add'l Truck (L59)

D7: MBFKD - Doubtful

D7: s/c add'l Engine (E82)

B19: s/c add'l Truck (L51 act. L33)

D7: Transmit 2nd Alarm, fill out the alarm, fire in cockloft (11:35)

2nd Alarm
E66 act. 48, 43, 88
L17 act. 33 s/c, 48 act. 27 s/c
B18 FF
B27 RUL
B26 S
E72 w/Sat. 2
FC, RB, SB. TCU1, RM, CTU
Car15
Car23D

D7: s/c (2) add'l Trucks (L17 act. L33 & L48 act. L27)

D7: Transmit 3rd Alarm, double roof in cockloft, heavy fire (11:52)

3rd Alarm
E50, 93, 81, 95, 35 (Comm.)
L44
B13 FF
B3 SA
MSU, RAC1
Car24
Car12C
Car22D

Staging Area: Burnside Ave. & Grand Concourse

D7: removing members from roof & interior, conducting roll call

FC: Car15 Transmit 4th Alarm, have (1) 95' TL assigned (12:19)

4th Alarm
E64 act. 42, 92 act. 48, 80 act. 46, 263 act. 43
L37, 14, 58 s/c
B46 act. 19
Car24C
Car11
Car12
Car22B

FC: Roll call has been conducted/all members accounted for - going to exterior attack\

FC: (2) TLs in operation, setting up 3rd TL, (1) MultiVersal IFO, (1) HL in Exposure 2, (1) HL on Roof of Exposure 4A (H-Type MD)

FC: Car15 Transmit Full 5th Alarm (12:49)

5th Alarm
E62 act. 75, 45, 313 act. 50, 40 act. 95, 315 act. 42 s/c, 295 act. 46 s/c, 21 act. 92 s/c, 79 s/c, 287 act. 75 s/c, 297 act. 43 s/c, 320 act. 82 s/c, 90 s/c
L22 act. 33, 115 act. 44, 129 act. 56 s/c, 138 act. 59 s/c, 23 act, 44 FT s/c, 144 act. 33 s/c, 19 s/c, 43 act. 56 FT s/c, 105 act. 33 s/c, 117 act. 44 s/c
B10 act. 17, 6 act. ? s/c, 28 act. 18 s/c
MCU2
Car3
Car4
Car16E
Car22B

FC: s/c (2) add'l Trucks (L129 act. L56 & L138 act. L59)

FC: s/c add'l Truck (L23 act. L44) to relieve L27F

FC: as per Car4 s/c (4) add'l Engines (E315 act. E42, E295 act. E46, E21 act. 92 , 79) & (2) Trucks (L144 act. L33 & L19)

FC: s/c (2) BCs (B6 act . B? & B28 act. B18

FC: s/c add'l FT (L43 act. L56) & report to Exposure 3 side of fire b'ldg. (Anthony Ave.)

FC: s/c (2) add'l Engines (E287 act. 75 & E297 act. 43)

FC: s/c MCU2

FC: s/c (2) add'l Engines (E320 act. 82 & E90)

FC: s/c HazMat Logistics to pick up over-packed E-Bikes

FC: s/c (2) TLs (L105 act. L33 & L117 act. L44)

FC: as per Car3 PWH (14:52)

E66 act. E48
E92 act. E48
L48 act. L27
L51 act. L33
L17 act. L33
L22 act. L33
L144 act. L33
L105 act. L33
E80 act. E46
E295 act. E46
E69 act. E46
E263 act. E43
E297 act. E43
E64 act. E42
E315 act. E42
E84 act. E42
B53 act. B3
E21 act. E92
E291 act. E92
E259 act. E88
E320 act. E82
L129 act. L56
L43 act. L56
L30 act. L56
L115 act. L44
L23 act. L44
L117 act. L44
L138 act. L59
L116 act. L59
B28 act. B18
B46 act. B19
B31 act. B19
B10 act. B17
B49 act. B17
E40 act. E95
E62 act. E75
E287 act. E75
E313 act. E50
L45 act. L58
E67 act. E79
L146 act. L17
E320 act. E82
L123 act. L27

Good job in keeping up with the relocations and all the s/c assignments.

 

[raybrag]

Plumes From Roaring Bronx Fire Seen Miles Away

Huge plumes of thick smoke filled the sky above New York City on Sunday afternoon as fire department crews rushed to put out a raging fire. The fire sprang up around 10:30 a.m. in the Bronx and was still burning several hours later, the FDNY said. By 1 p.m., the inferno had triggered a 5-alarm...

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Captain784]

MAYBE EVEN 7 IHAVE 9xE 10Xt 2XTL IF MY # IS CORRECT

I am very confident this is Equal to, at least a 7th Alarm. Note under the old FDNY Boro Call/Simultaneous system anything above the 5th Alarm was "4 Engines plus 1 Ladder Co." on every alarm above the 5th. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired

 

[den114]

I am very confident this is Equal to, at least a 7th Alarm. Note under the old FDNY Boro Call/Simultaneous system anything above the 5th Alarm was "4 Engines plus 1 Ladder Co." on every alarm above the 5th. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired

How about the old Boro call?

 

[Signal73]

Car-11B(Chief of Hazmat) 10-84
Car-11X(Captain CTU) 10-84
Car-1 10-84

FC s/c L44 back to the 5th @16:15

D-7 10-8 B-31 Act. 19 radio contact @17:24

Relocations:
Engine 304 Act. Engine 90
Ladder 18 Act. Ladder 44