4/15/26 Bronx All Hands Box 3167

[UnitWithTheUrgent]

Address: 2131 Clinton Ave. off East 181st St.

Fire on the first floor of a 5 story (per CIDS) 65x150 class 3 MD

Box loaded up due to calls - 00:47

E-88: 10-75 - Fire on the first floor - 00:48

L-56 FAST

B-18: Extra E&T (E-48 already added on the 10-75, L-27) - 00:53

B-18: All Hands - 1 L/S/O - 00:54

B-18: PWH - 01:07

B-18: Under Control - 01:29

Duration: 44 Min.

Maybe:
E-88, 45, 46, 42, 48
L-38, 58, 56F, 27
B-18, 19
R-3
SQ-61
D-7
RAC-3

 

[EdMc]

5 story (per CIDS) is correct. If you goggle map the front of the building and zoom in you will see inside the front door is a flight of stairs more than likely going to another door that lets you onto the first floor and where the mailboxes are. This building also, more than likely, does not have an elevator, which would be required in a six-story building.

 

[t123ken]

It looks like six stories to me:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8487149,-73.8868803,3a,75y,301.03h,114.2t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s_tUuy6VoxUHYm2eVZKJiFQ!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=-24.196601189900278&panoid=_tUuy6VoxUHYm2eVZKJiFQ&yaw=301.0281616905334!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDQxMy4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

Not this again please. I’d bet 90% of the buildings in the Bronx can be debated floor wise.

 

[8060rock]

This horse hasn't been "beaten to death" - the entire herd has!!!

 

[t123ken]

Not this again please. I’d bet 90% of the buildings in the Bronx can be debated floor wise.

How many stories would you say the building is?

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

It undoubtedly looks like 6 from the street - but as we know from here, the ground floor of apartments is not counted in the official NYC building code assessment of the building. The “first floor” starts at the top of the stairs once inside as mentioned in EdMc’s post. So of course I understand and would even say that yes, from the street it looks 6 stories.

What I was saying was that this very interesting topic, however, has been discussed to what is to me a moot point. Clearly the CIDS, DOB, and hopefully members of area fire companies know how to classify the building in which they are familiar with.