5/25/24 Bronx 10-75 Box 4767

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8060rock

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Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 250 East 176 St

Fire in Apt 5G of a 6 story MD 100 X 100 Class 3 H Type

E-42,75,46,92,43
L-33,27,44(Fast),59
B-19,17
R-3
Sq-41
D-6
Rac-1

B-19 All Hands
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Date?

Box loaded up due to report of people trapped

B19 gave 10-75, small fire on 5th floor - 1 L/S

B19: the occupant is with EMS

D7: (1) 10-45 No Code

D7: the 10-45 is Code 4

D7: UC (duration 31 min.)
 
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MagicMan17

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As per the videos, 27 acted as 1st due. I can see why 33 is assigned 1st due, but geographically speaking 27 is much closer. At this time of night 27 can go wrong way on a couple blocks and get there much quicker than usual.
 
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tommyhal&oat

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In regard to what Magic said, is/was 27 assigned first due to this box? ...considering the Bronx normally respects each other's boxes when it comes to being 1st/2nd due.
 
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3511

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HC7 said:
This Box Is TL33’s 1st Due Box, 33 & 27 Pulled Up At The Same Time.
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According to the run card posted L27 is first due and E46 second due ahead of E75. Is it possible that sometimes the computer assigns units according to where the address plots rather than the street intersection of the box number?
 
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bxengine

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just look at the assignments and then take a look at companies routes to get to the box…some companies go through first due areas of companies not even assigned on the fifth alarm. Even with BARB so much is wrong, whether intentional (much less in todays world than back when certain companies had major influence) or by mistake.
 
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8060rock said:
Not the deciding factor but,
E46/L27 - .6 mile
E75/L33 - 1.0 mile
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This is a fun discussion and I'm not doubting anybody here. In the famous words of Pope John Paul II, "WTF?"

BARB and DCAS and all the other computer systems were supposed to make life easier and more accurate. BUT!...

How about the old methods of the Alarm Assignment Division. It had street maps of the entire city and little wheels that were calibrated to the scale of those maps. The wheel was rotated along the streets on the map and the companies that were closer to a specific street box were assigned in order. In most cases in those days street traffic flow direction was not a consideration as responding fire apparatus overruled.(Both cars and fire engines were smaller.).The calculation did consider turns, Street closures, local knowledge of Chiefs, company COs, MPO's, etc.

Those guys with their maps and little calibrated wheels seemed to get it right more often than the computer does.
 
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