8/23/22 Brooklyn 3rd Alarm Box 241

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Fire Location: 499 Grand St

Fire in a 3 story brick mixed occupancy 20 X 60

E-216,221,229,211
L-108,104,146(Fast)
B-35,45
R-2
Sq-252
D-11
Rac-2

B-35 2nd Alarm @03:48

2nd Alarm
E-206,230,237,238,217s/c,214
E-207 w/ Sat. 6
L-119,102,176 Act. 108s/c,101 Act. 104s/c,114 Act. 119s/c
L-113 Act. 108s/c
B-37(FF)
B-57(RUL)
B-38(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM-1
CTU

D-11 extra Engine & Truck extension into exposure 4 361 Union Ave @03:55

Exposures:
1. Street
2. Street
3. Rear Yard
4. Street

FC Fire on several floors. Per D-11 4 L/S/O Primary searches in 499 Grand St Complete & Negative. DWH @ 04:05

FC Special Call 2 additional Trucks @04:10

FC on Box 241. Engine 214 is 10-84 if you can assign them. @04:18

FC s/c an additional Truck @04:19

FC per D-11 exposure 3 is interconnected on all floors, Primaries are complete and negative throughout DWH @04:30

FC per D-11 s/c 4 Engines for relief PWH @04:35

BK to FC on the request for the 4 Engines. It would require the next Alarm @ 04:36

FC per D-11 Transmit the 3rd Alarm for relief s/c 1 additional truck to relieve the Fast Truck. We don't need Air Recon @04:37

FC to BK we will take the balance of the 3rd Alarm @ 04:38

*Staging Union Ave & Ainsile St*

3rd Alarm
E-231 Act. 237,271,279 Act. 211,?,332(Comm)
L-124,?,5 Act. 104(Fast),103 Act. 108s/c
L-138 Act. 119s/c
B-40 Act. 35(FF)
B-39 Act. 37(Staging)
Rac-4
Mask
Car-32 (Medical Officer Bronx & Manhattan)
Car-22G (Fleet Mechanic Supervisor)
Car-6 (Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car-23D (Press Duty)

FC s/c an additional truck @ 04:42

FC per D-11 s/c an additional Truck @ 04:52

Relocations:
Engine 6 Act. Engine 211
Engine 263 Act. Ladder 237
Engine 231 Act. Engine 237
Engine 279 Act. Engine 211

Ladder 6 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 101 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 114 Act. Ladder 119
Ladder 176 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 113 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 103 Act. Ladder 108

Ladder 11 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 112 Act. Ladder ??
Ladder 138 Act. Ladder 119
Battalion 39 Act. Battalion 37
Battalion 40 Act. Battalion 35

Battalion 52 Act. Battalion 35

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Messages
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Fire Location: 499 Grand St

Fire in a 3 story brick mixed occupancy 20 X 60

E-216,221,229,211
L-108,104,146(Fast)
B-35,45
R-2
Sq-252
D-11
Rac-2

B-35 2nd Alarm @03:48

2nd Alarm
E-206,230,237,238,217s/c,214
E-207 w/ Sat. 6
L-119,102,176 Act. 108s/c,101 Act. 104s/c,114 Act. 119s/c
L-113 Act. 108s/c
B-37(FF)
B-57(RUL)
B-38(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM-1
CTU

D-11 extra Engine & Truck extension into exposure 4 361 Union Ave @03:55

Exposures:
1. Street
2. Street
3. Rear Yard
4. Street

FC Fire on several floors. Per D-11 4 L/S/O Primary searches in 499 Grand St Complete & Negative. DWH @ 04:05

FC Special Call 2 additional Trucks @04:10

FC on Box 241. Engine 214 is 10-84 if you can assign them. @04:18

FC s/c an additional Truck @04:19

FC per D-11 exposure 3 is interconnected on all floors, Primaries are complete and negative throughout DWH @04:30

FC per D-11 s/c 4 Engines for relief PWH @04:35

BK to FC on the request for the 4 Engines. It would require the next Alarm @ 04:36

FC per D-11 Transmit the 3rd Alarm for relief s/c 1 additional truck to relieve the Fast Truck. We don't need Air Recon @04:37

FC to BK we will take the balance of the 3rd Alarm @ 04:38

*Staging Union Ave & Ainsile St*

3rd Alarm
E-231 Act. 237,271,279 Act. 211,?,332(Comm)
L-124,?,5 Act. 104(Fast),103 Act. 108s/c
L-138 Act. 119s/c
B-40 Act. 35(FF)
B-39 Act. 37(Staging)
Rac-4
Mask
Car-32 (Medical Officer Bronx & Manhattan)
Car-22G (Fleet Mechanic Supervisor)
Car-6 (Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car-23D (Press Duty)

FC s/c an additional truck @ 04:42

FC per D-11 s/c an additional Truck @ 04:52

Relocations:
Engine 6 Act. Engine 211
Engine 263 Act. Ladder 237
Engine 231 Act. Engine 237
Engine 279 Act. Engine 211

Ladder 6 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 101 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 114 Act. Ladder 119
Ladder 176 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 113 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 103 Act. Ladder 108

Ladder 11 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 112 Act. Ladder ??
Ladder 138 Act. Ladder 119
Battalion 39 Act. Battalion 37
Battalion 40 Act. Battalion 35

Battalion 52 Act. Battalion 35

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I see in a lot of these posting's' you guys refer to Box ####. i assume this is some sort of location or area? as its follow by a number/code. Can you guys explain how the Box reference works? i have not heard of that before?
 
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I see in a lot of these posting's' you guys refer to Box ####. i assume this is some sort of location or area? as its follow by a number/code. Can you guys explain how the Box reference works? i have not heard of that before?
The box number is associated with an intersection. Back in the day the units used to respond to whatever box per the bells. No phone alarms really. Simone would see a fire, run to the pull box and pull the lever.

It would then be sent to central dispatch, then dispatch would send the bells to the fire house.

The member on house watch would count the bells, then the engine or truck would respond to the intersection associated with that box.
 
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I see in a lot of these posting's' you guys refer to Box ####. i assume this is some sort of location or area? as its follow by a number/code. Can you guys explain how the Box reference works? i have not heard of that before?
Here's what they look like (in the photos). Almost every corner in the city has (or had) one, and each was numbered as shown in the 2nd photo (844). That number identified the location of the box. In later years, most if not all were replaced by a voice system which allowed the caller to connect directly to a dispatcher to explain what the problem was (see the 3d photo). The advent of the 911 system (your 000) and especially cell phones made the call boxes obsolescent, and indeed many of them while still standing, are inoperative. But the box number system is alive and well and used for every FDNY call. I should mention that there are also special purpose box numbers for specific situations, but someone with more knowledge than me should explain that to you. An example would be Bronx box 3826, which is struck when mutual aid to the city of Mount Vernon (north of NYC) is approved. Units assigned to that box respond to staging at Provost Ave & East 233rd St. Other examples can be found in the FAQ for this site by searching for "box" https://www.nycfire.net/forums/threads/frequently-asked-question.74764/

And just in case you have nothing better to do, you can find a list of in-service boxes at https://data.cityofnewyork.us/widgets/v57i-gtxb.
First letter of box number indicates borough (B: Brooklyn, M: Manhattan, X: Bronx, Q: Queens, R: Staten Island)
 

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Fire Location: 499 Grand St

Fire in a 3 story brick mixed occupancy 20 X 60

E-216,221,229,211
L-108,104,146(Fast)
B-35,45
R-2
Sq-252
D-11
Rac-2

B-35 2nd Alarm @03:48

2nd Alarm
E-206,230,237,238,217s/c,214
E-207 w/ Sat. 6
L-119,102,176 Act. 108s/c,101 Act. 104s/c,114 Act. 119s/c
L-113 Act. 108s/c
B-37(FF)
B-57(RUL)
B-38(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM-1
CTU

D-11 extra Engine & Truck extension into exposure 4 361 Union Ave @03:55

Exposures:
1. Street
2. Street
3. Rear Yard
4. Street

FC Fire on several floors. Per D-11 4 L/S/O Primary searches in 499 Grand St Complete & Negative. DWH @ 04:05

FC Special Call 2 additional Trucks @04:10

FC on Box 241. Engine 214 is 10-84 if you can assign them. @04:18

FC s/c an additional Truck @04:19

FC per D-11 exposure 3 is interconnected on all floors, Primaries are complete and negative throughout DWH @04:30

FC per D-11 s/c 4 Engines for relief PWH @04:35

BK to FC on the request for the 4 Engines. It would require the next Alarm @ 04:36

FC per D-11 Transmit the 3rd Alarm for relief s/c 1 additional truck to relieve the Fast Truck. We don't need Air Recon @04:37

FC to BK we will take the balance of the 3rd Alarm @ 04:38

*Staging Union Ave & Ainsile St*

3rd Alarm
E-231 Act. 237,271,279 Act. 211,?,332(Comm)
L-124,?,5 Act. 104(Fast),103 Act. 108s/c
L-138 Act. 119s/c
B-40 Act. 35(FF)
B-39 Act. 37(Staging)
Rac-4
Mask
Car-32 (Medical Officer Bronx & Manhattan)
Car-22G (Fleet Mechanic Supervisor)
Car-6 (Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car-23D (Press Duty)

FC s/c an additional truck @ 04:42

FC per D-11 s/c an additional Truck @ 04:52

Relocations:
Engine 6 Act. Engine 211
Engine 263 Act. Ladder 237
Engine 231 Act. Engine 237
Engine 279 Act. Engine 211

Ladder 6 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 101 Act. Ladder 104
Ladder 114 Act. Ladder 119
Ladder 176 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 113 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 103 Act. Ladder 108

Ladder 11 Act. Ladder 108
Ladder 112 Act. Ladder ??
Ladder 138 Act. Ladder 119
Battalion 39 Act. Battalion 37
Battalion 40 Act. Battalion 35

Battalion 52 Act. Battalion 35

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What is the Manhattan Borugh Commander doing on a Brooklyn job?
 
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