9/11/25 Manhattan All Hands Box 0432

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Address: 67 Avenue C off East 5th St.

Fire on the top floor of a 6 story 30x75 class 3 MD

Phone Alarm - Reporting smoke from the roof at 69 Avenue C - 13:50

MD to E-28/L-11: Second source reporting a fire on the top floor at 67 Ave. C - 13:51

B-4: Transmit the 10-75 - 13:55

TL-9 FAST

B-4: Address is 67 Avenue C - We have (1) 10-45, we need EMS forthwith - 13:57

B-4: All Hands (E-76 act. 55 & L-3) - Water on the fire - 13:59

D-1: 2 L/S, 1 L/O - AVFKD, DWH - 14:09

D-1: The 10-45 is a code 3 - 14:16

D-1: PWH - 14:27

D-1: Under Control - 14:31

Duration: 42 Min.

Maybe:
E-28, 15, 5, 33, 76 (act. 55)
L-11, 18, 9F, 3
B-4, 6
R-1
SQ-18
D-1
RAC-1

Relocations:
E-21 to E-28
E-221 to E-5
L-21 to L-9
E-202 to E-33
L-102 to L-11
B-32 to B-4
 
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doneleven said:
There was a time when 432 was among the busiest boxes in the city. Especially in the dead end between B and C. "Fire reported top floor rear"....you pulled up your boots.
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It's been a while since I was in Alphabet City. Were there 5 and 6 story tenements where the 3 story brick row houses are? Did they all burn in the 70's and 80's?
 
Yes...Mostly tenements...both OLT and NLT. Some blocks had brownstones. Some light commercial here and there especially around D. Projects all along east side of D. A few blocks up above 8th or 9th had rear tenements. And yes...they all burned in the 70's and 80's thank you. Friends of mine on the job would see the destruction...block after block of vacant buildings and piles of bricks and ask..."thought you guys were good down here. Did you save ANYTHING?"...lol. I'd say they burned room by room...awful lot of all hands. Tiny response area within the context of the entire city...especially the outer boroughs. When I went out to L133 we had a small enclave called Bricktown which was pretty busy. But it was a small fraction of 275/133's response area. In size it was almost equal to 28/11 ENTIRE response area. Great memories.
 
doneleven said:
Yes...Mostly tenements...both OLT and NLT. Some blocks had brownstones. Some light commercial here and there especially around D. Projects all along east side of D. A few blocks up above 8th or 9th had rear tenements. And yes...they all burned in the 70's and 80's thank you. Friends of mine on the job would see the destruction...block after block of vacant buildings and piles of bricks and ask..."thought you guys were good down here. Did you save ANYTHING?"...lol. I'd say they burned room by room...awful lot of all hands. Tiny response area within the context of the entire city...especially the outer boroughs. When I went out to L133 we had a small enclave called Bricktown which was pretty busy. But it was a small fraction of 275/133's response area. In size it was almost equal to 28/11 ENTIRE response area. Great memories.
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I knew about the make up of the area with rear tenements and projects along with OLT and NLT. I worked in the area as a paramedic in the 90's and early 2000's. At the time I worked there I did not realize that E5 St had burned down and was rebuilt with those 3 story rows. I thought they had always been there. Thanks for your response.
 
Lots of those tenements were rehabbed into condos with sprinkler systems. The nature of the beast as no way an area in Lower Manhattan was gonna leave real estate money on the table. Cut back on the workload substantially down there the last 15-20 years at least but still a great place to work and learn! Still lots of interesting runs to respond to
 
twoteamtease said:
Lots of those tenements were rehabbed into condos with sprinkler systems. The nature of the beast as no way an area in Lower Manhattan was gonna leave real estate money on the table. Cut back on the workload substantially down there the last 15-20 years at least but still a great place to work and learn! Still lots of interesting runs to respond to
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Truly amazing how much the area changed in the late 90's. I started working down there in 95 and we were in squatter buildings daily. By 97 everything was transformed and young women were walking their dogs in Tompkins Square Park.
 
twoteamtease said:
Lots of those tenements were rehabbed into condos with sprinkler systems. The nature of the beast as no way an area in Lower Manhattan was gonna leave real estate money on the table. Cut back on the workload substantially down there the last 15-20 years at least but still a great place to work and learn! Still lots of interesting runs to respond to
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Twoteamtease..As you well know, the tradition and value of a firehouse far exceeds the amount of work it does. In my over 20 years on 2nd street I was honored to have been taught by great men not only how to negotiate a hallway, but all that our great job stands for beyond the fires. “Do the right thing” is more than a saying. The entire 4th battalion lived that mantra then.. and still does today. Stay safe.
 
doneleven said:
Twoteamtease..As you well know, the tradition and value of a firehouse far exceeds the amount of work it does. In my over 20 years on 2nd street I was honored to have been taught by great men not only how to negotiate a hallway, but all that our great job stands for beyond the fires. “Do the right thing” is more than a saying. The entire 4th battalion lived that mantra then.. and still does today. Stay safe.
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Amen!

I missed you by only a couple years but your name and rep is well known!

I actually just got assigned back down there - made a couple visits and was thrilled to be back! Looking forward to working back in the 4th and 6th Battalion areas but I like the entire first Division too

God bless
 
Got on NYPD in 1989 and assigned lower east side.
Even though the Tompkins square riot was in 1988 we were constantly dealing with stuff in the park and the surrounding areas. Eventually they got all the crap out of the park sealed it off and fixed it up.
The big $$ people were buying up the properties so the homeless, squatters and heroin addicted zombies were getting squeezed out. Stuff that was allowed to go on there for years was over. Putting $$ into real estate the developers need a certain degree of safety for people that want to move into area.
The brick farms started getting cleaned up, the vacant buildings started getting rehabbed or torn down. I was shocked at the transformation in the area when got relocated to 28 just couple of years later and almost all of the vacants around them were fixed up and occupied.
Was the very beginning of the real estate resurgence in the city. When developers saw they could turn around an area set their sights on areas in Brooklyn that had dirt cheap real estate in terrible areas bed-study, bushwick, etc..
Areas that had brownstones were at top of list for people.
People flooded in from around the country and real estate values exploded
 
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Anyone who is a fan of the tv show "NYPD Blue" can follow the change that bf231 is referring to. The first season or two...1993...most of the street scenes were of vacants and brick farms. By the time the series ended (and long before that) most of the footage was of an upscale yuppie neighborhood. Any "skell" activity had to be done on set. Only question is why it took so long. Early 80's or so we had the FBI living in or quarters scoping out the building opposite us. Suspected FALN headquarters. Needless to say, local drug traffic was not their concern but they would laugh at the almost San Gennaro like parade of dealers and junkies walking Second St 24/7. And this went on for years!...until, as bf231 says...big money developers saw their chance and it stopped on a dime. Sure wasn't fun anymore...lol. Stay safe.
 
Donnie, before 133 was born, 150 was second due in Bricktown. Down Jamaica Ave to 176 St and go south. You guys, 133, changed the landscape for our entire area. We, 150, would go down to the City line. Go up into northeast Queens and we were on the Cross Island Parkway. It was lateral, not vertical.
 
jkal said:
Donnie, before 133 was born, 150 was second due in Bricktown. Down Jamaica Ave to 176 St and go south. You guys, 133, changed the landscape for our entire area. We, 150, would go down to the City line. Go up into northeast Queens and we were on the Cross Island Parkway. It was lateral, not vertical.
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John...Didn't realize that. Would have figured 126 would have been in there with 127. And you're right about us changing the landscape. We affected some trucks more than others...127 being hit hardest. They generated OSW numbers to their north...but most of their actual fire duty was south. We took most of that away. For the most part the transition went well...didn't receive many Christmas cards from the surrounding trucks...lol. But the quality and professionalism of that area was outstanding and eventually it all fell into place. Hope all is well. brother. Take care.
 
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