99## series Boxes in manhattan

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I have recently heard on manhattan frequency 99## series boxes, in a few battalions areas, what or where are these boxes??

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JT
 
I believe those numbers (9999, 9998, 9997, etc) are used when there are incidents in the same location of the orginial box. Example: lets say in Manhatten Box 1234 has a job going. Another call comes in the same area. Box 9999 might be used to send apparatus to that location. Two calls going on in the same box location.

  I hope thats the right info, but thats how I understand it. I'm sure there's alot more people who can verify that and maybe explain it better.
 
On the ticket it will come up with 9999 (0795) so you still see the real box number.
 
The most recent change to the duplicate box/incident system introduced some new wrinkles.  The first duplicate incident in the borough is 9999-01, the second duplicate for that box is 9997-01, the third 9995-01.  A second incident/box is 9998-01, 9996-01, 9994-01;  the third is 9993-01, 9992-01, 9989-01. 
 
HCO said:
The most recent change to the duplicate box/incident system introduced some new wrinkles.  The first duplicate incident in the borough is 9999-01, the second duplicate for that box is 9997-01, the third 9995-01.  A second incident/box is 9998-01, 9996-01, 9994-01;  the third is 9993-01, 9992-01, 9989-01.
That sounds confusing to say the least!
 
Boxes 9950 - 9999 are used when there is more than 1 active incident at the same location.

The original function: Let's use a car fire as an example and say 10 people call at the same time reporting a car fire at Houston and 6th.  The first call to hit the system will get box number 347. The second call will get box number 9999-1, the third will get 9998-1 and so on down the line to 9991-1.

Some time later another car fire comes in at 8 Ave & 49 St. The first call gets box 849, the second gets 9999-2 (because 9999-1 was used already), the third gets 9998-2 (because 9998-1 was used already), etc.

Using this method you can have up to 99 incidents of a certain box number. Since 9999 was the most commonly used number it was always occurring more than 100 times a day. This was causing problems in the CADS since the inception of UCT due to the policies and procedures in use at 911. (I can't go into details here.)

In the new system, instead of going back to 9999 with each possible dupe, Starfire picks up where it left off until it reaches 9950-1, then it goes to 9999-2, 9998-2, etc. It will take 4900 dupes before we reach 9999-99 and so far we haven't.

Did I explain it well or are you now even more confused? :)

 
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