Brooklyn 5th alarm Commercial Fire 3/11/26 Box 2671

To think, not that long ago, Marine 8 probably would have been Exposure #4 on 52nd St.
Strange to see 3 engines and 2 trucks s/c from S.I.
 
Very rough numbers here (+/-):
37 engines (including Comm eng, Haz-Tech eng)
30 ladders
1 Rescue
1 Squad
4 RACs
3 Marine
23 Battalions (including HM, SB, RB, MB)
1 Division
2 TSUs
SOC (Dewatering, Logistics, Compressor)
1 CT
1 Field Comm
1 Haz-Mat
1 MCC
1 MSU
4 Staff Chiefs

I figured staffing at minimum levels. I get approximately 475 personnel on scene. When adding in the other support units (Medical, Fleet Services, etc), plus any additional such as a 5FF engines, I am guessing closing in on 500 total (not including EMS).
 
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Were any of the satellite units actually running their deck guns or were they just running LDH and manifolds?

Side question, if a marine unit is supplying ladders/engines, do the companies flush out the rigs at the end of the job to get the salt water out of the pumps and internals?
 
FFM1938 said:
Were any of the satellite units actually running their deck guns or were they just running LDH and manifolds?

Side question, if a marine unit is supplying ladders/engines, do the companies flush out the rigs at the end of the job to get the salt water out of the pumps and internals?
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For LDH and they are supposed to.
 
I have said this before I don't feel the "New" Super Pumper 1" is useless if it is kept for Foam Operations only. What has to happen Firewise before it is used? I worked in the "Old Mack Super Pumper System" from time to time and know what it could do. If the brass in the FDNY want more information take out some old W.N.Y.F. Magazines from the 1970s & 1980s and see what the capabilities of a properly utilized "Super Pumper" are in terms of control of major fires. At This 5th alarm 2 Fireboats each capable of 30,000 GPM each plus Hydrants = Plenty of Water, yet no way to place a Very Large Caliber Stream into operation on the LAND side of the fire. Chicago had and has "Deluge Units" mounted on rigs capable of getting into position to attack major fires. Chicago fights more serious fires than FDNY does, look it up. Maybe then have of point with CFDs Monitor/deluge units, that FDNY is missing. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.
 
I don't understand the fierce resistance to this seemingly new policy of SI units relocating to or responding in to Brooklyn. By my count, there were 5 SI companies engaged this morning: E160, E155, E165, L77, and L80 (not counting relief later). In all five cases, those units are in quarters with another unit (R5, L78, L85, E153, E157 respectively), so there were no SI firehouses without coverage. I understand that SI is a unique part of the city and it can be difficult to maintain coverage, but none of the units that went to Brooklyn came from remote parts of SI - all five of these companies come from northern SI where other units are very close. Further, most of the SI units engaged are in slow areas by FDNY standards and were sent into the job or in to cover areas much busier. If one is concerned with overall unit availability on SI, this incident engaged 5 out of 31 companies on SI, or 16 percent, suggesting 84 percent unit availability on SI. I suspect unit availability in Brooklyn during this incident was much lower than 84 percent. I get that moving units off SI should be done carefully, but I think those who feel that units should never leave SI are off base - how would that be fair to people in other parts of the city who would have to suffer from diminished fire coverage or response from a policy where all SI units are off limits?
 
wonder what the greatest alarm would’ve been if stopped at a 5th & special called the heck out of it?
 
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