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With all the assistant, chief deputy chief what would be a response to a five alarm fire for the Chiefs?
 
jloonz said:
With all the assistant, chief deputy chief what would be a response to a five alarm fire for the Chiefs?
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Citywide Tour Commander on the 3rd Alarm (Usually a DAC/AC), Chief of Fire Operations on the 4th Alarm and Chief of Department on the 5th alarm.

On the chiefs discretion can respond to any Incident. As far as I know, only the above is "needed" but very common to see a few additional staff chiefs by the time it hits the 5-5.

Also requires a Deputy Assistant Chief from the Bureau of Safety on the 3rd alarm and an Assistant Chief on the 4th alarm if I am not mistaken.
 
NikFDNY said:
Citywide Tour Commander on the 3rd Alarm (Usually a DAC/AC), Chief of Fire Operations on the 4th Alarm and Chief of Department on the 5th alarm.

On the chiefs discretion can respond to any Incident. As far as I know, only the above is "needed" but very common to see a few additional staff chiefs by the time it hits the 5-5.

Also requires a Deputy Assistant Chief from the Bureau of Safety on the 3rd alarm and an Assistant Chief on the 4th alarm if I am not mistaken.
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I remember it being Borough on the 3rd when their in Service, CWTC on the 4th, and COFO or the COD on the 5th.
 
Darrell said:
I remember it being Borough on the 3rd when their in Service, CWTC on the 4th, and COFO or the COD on the 5th.
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borough commanders are included in the cwtc list. On the chiefs discretion can respond to any Incident.
 
Honestly, in my opinion, I think they should bring back the first alarm after the 10-75 and have the division chief handle. second alarm would be Boro commander, third alarm assistant operations chief, fourth alarm ops chief, fifth alarm chief department
 
The idea was to at all times have atleast two chiefs at the command post, allowing the 2nd Battalion Chief to enter the building for fire sector stuff.
 
NikFDNY said:
Citywide Tour Commander on the 3rd Alarm (Usually a DAC/AC), Chief of Fire Operations on the 4th Alarm and Chief of Department on the 5th alarm.

On the chiefs discretion can respond to any Incident. As far as I know, only the above is "needed" but very common to see a few additional staff chiefs by the time it hits the 5-5.

Also requires a Deputy Assistant Chief from the Bureau of Safety on the 3rd alarm and an Assistant Chief on the 4th alarm if I am not mistaken.
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I don't think that is correct regarding the Safety response. An additional Chief from the Safety Command responds on the third alarm, but most of the time lately it has been a BC. The current Chief of Safety is a DC, not a DAC or AC. I think the current response is that a BC from Safety responds on the 3rd, and the Chief of Safety responds on the 4th, but could respond sooner at his discretion. In any event, the highest ranking officer in Safety is currently a DC, no DAC or AC in safety since the recent staff chief shuffle. If you look at responses on this site, you'll see the BCs who respond on the third alarm as 12-cars, and they appear to be in a rotation, i.e. Car 12A, 12B, 12C, with Car 12 obviously being the DC who is Chief of Safety.

Sources: recent department orders, responses as listed on this site, and the FDNY org chart.
 
To bad we couldn't make a new topic for this discussion so when we need the answers we could find it rather that it be under here.

Wish I could lock this topic and keep it neat and clean. But unfortunately that'll never happen
 
The current Chief of Safety is acting until April 9th. Then will be made a DAC.

The Safety Battalion responds to 2nd alarms, 77s, 76s and numerous other incidents. Car 12A, B, C share the 3rd alarm duty. Which is to relieve the SB so it can go back in service.
 
Could someone elaborate on what UFO for officers is? I know it stands for until further orders….Does it mean that spot is technically open? Or does have to do with not enough Officers? Thanks
 
spike36ff said:
Could someone elaborate on what UFO for officers is? I know it stands for until further orders….Does it mean that spot is technically open? Or does have to do with not enough Officers? Thanks
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UFO is the Uniformed Fire Officers Association, aka the Officers Union, unless your referring to something entirely different.
 
spike36ff said:
Could someone elaborate on what UFO for officers is? I know it stands for until further orders….Does it mean that spot is technically open? Or does have to do with not enough Officers? Thanks
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I think it means the spot is open. When new captains are promoted they are assigned a Division that they cover in. When there is a vacancy in one of the companies someone will get that spot UFO where instead of covering a new company every tour or for only a vacation time they stay at the same company covering until the order comes out that makes it their permanent assignment.


That is my understanding/guess I am not FDNY so I could be completely wrong
 
When members are promoted to rank they cover in an assigned battalion or division, they fill vacation spots for term of vacation and bounce around from spot to spot. When a long term spot opens a covering officer is assigned UFO, this is due to many reasons such as long term injury, off line detail or member using time prior to retiring. Also if an officer is promoted to next rank then that spot gets a UFO until a transfer order happens to fill spot.
 
Going to Run this topic back for the new comers. Going to be a couple new post in the next few days
 
Not sure what happened to my original post with all this info. But thank you NikFDNY for typing this up for us.

Unit Prefix's
BC - Battalion
BF or BFU - Brush Fire Unit
CT or CTU - Command Tactical
DC - Division
DS - Decon Support
DW - Dewatering Unit
E - Engine
F - Foam Unit
FC - Field Communications
H - Airport Hose Wagon
HA - High Axel
HB - Hazmat Battalion
HM - Hazmat 1
HW - Highway
I or TA - Thawing
MB - Marine Battalion
MK or MSU - Mask Service Unit
MR - Marine Unit
L - Ladder
P or PK - Purple K
Q - Squad
R or RRV - Rapid Response Vehicle
RA - RAC
RB - Rescue Battalion
RC - Rescue Collapse
RE - Rebreather
RM - Rehab Manager
RS - Rescue
SB - Safety Battalion
SC - SOC Compressor
SL - SOC Logistics
ST - Satellite
T or TL - Tower Ladder
TS or TSU or TAC - Tactical Support Unit

Borough Commanders
CB01 - Manhattan
CB02 - Bronx
CB03 - Richmond
CB04 - Brooklyn
CB05 - Queens

Medical Branch?
AM01 - Manhattan
AM02 - Bronx
AM03 - Richmond
AM04 - Brooklyn
AM05 - Queens

Engine Suffix's
C - CFR
D - Technical Decon Task Force
F - FAST
H - Hazmat Technician Unit
I - FireIce Unit
K - Division Task Force
L - Lobby Control Unit
M - Maritime FAST
N - High-Rise Nozzle
P - High Pressure Pumper
S - Communications
T - Vehicle Transport
V - Ventilation Support
W - Water Rescue unit
Y - Systems Control Unit

Ladder Suffix's
C - Chemical Protective Clothing
D - Technical Decon Task Force
F - FAST Unit
H - High-Rise Response Team
K - Division Task Force
R - Rescue Collapse Transport
S - Hazmat Support Ladder
T - Vehicle Transport
V - Ventilation Support
W - Water Rescue Unit

Battalion Suffix's
C - Communications Unit Leader
D - Technical Decon Task Force Leader
F - Foam Chief
G - FAST Group Supervisor
H - High-Rise Roof Chief
K - Division Task Force
L - FF Locator Officer
P - Staging Area Manager
R - Resource Unit Leader
S - Safety Officer
T - Transit/Rail Liaison

Rescue Suffix's
C - Chemical Protective Clothing
H - Hazmat Technician Unit

Squad Suffix's
H - Hazmat Technician Unit

High Rise Unit Suffix's
N - High-Rise Nozzle
V - Ventilation Support Unit
 
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