Los Angeles Brush Fire 1/7/25

ta176 said:
I've always said the Fire Dept. is like an insurance policy that you have to have but don't like to take advantage of. So they cut back and are paying the price to some degree now. It seems like when cutbacks hit usually the FD goes first, and in FDNY it's the Fire Marshals that go first, then closing houses. A lot of us have been there in the layoffs back in the mid 70's, not me though.
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I remember back in the 80s, when Dinkins got.in office and he closed a bunch of houses. Including E294. They hadn't even taken the engine back to the shops yet, and 7 people were dead within a 2 week time frame from when the doors closed. All within a roughly 5 block circle around the station.
 
The house always wins! So LA city leaders placed a bet and cut overtime and staffing. Now they are paying exorbitant and exponentially crazy overtime and more for damaged equipment etc. not to even mention what the cost of a human life is when the supposed overtime savings is spread out over the 24 lives lost SO FAR and the great loss of tax base. Lesson - Don’t Gamble with human lives and the lifeblood of the community- you’ll always lose tragically
 
RCL said:
I remember back in the 80s, when Dinkins got.in office and he closed a bunch of houses. Including E294. They hadn't even taken the engine back to the shops yet, and 7 people were dead within a 2 week time frame from when the doors closed. All within a roughly 5 block circle around the station.
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The Dinkins Administration wanted to close 40 companies, E294 was first on the list, the company was closed at 0900hrs and that night 2 brothers died in a fire that E294 would have been 1st Due at, no other companies were closed because of the outcry of this tragedy..........until Boomberg
 
ta176 said:
I've always said the Fire Dept. is like an insurance policy that you have to have but don't like to take advantage of. So they cut back and are paying the price to some degree now. It seems like when cutbacks hit usually the FD goes first, and in FDNY it's the Fire Marshals that go first, then closing houses. A lot of us have been there in the layoffs back in the mid 70's, not me though.
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LAFD has money coming out its' ears.

Last year the average LAFD firefighter pay was around $200,000 per annum plus $90,000 in benefits and with retirement at age 55 with a pension of 90% of final salary. Last fall a new union contract netted another $20,000 in pay and benefit costing $76 million. It appears that the previous $17 million budget cut helped pay for this. LAFD pension cost is $350 million per year.

LAFD fire prevention is 5% of the budget. There are nine DEI positions.
 
A Canadian company has developed an elevated sprinkler for wildland fires. I saw a prototype in a museum!Water tower.jpg
 
The criminal trial of Jonathan Rinderknecht, accused of starting the Pacific Palisades fire last year, began last week in Federal Court in LA. He is charged with three felony arson counts. He is accused of starting the fire in a Santa Monica Mountain outlook early on 1/1/2025 because he "resented the wealthy". LAFD extinguished the fire then, but it smoldered underground and flared up a week later resulting in the conflagration.

The Judge, Anne Hwang, has limited the use of evidence of possible LAFD negligent action as a defense tactic. The trial is expected to last two to three weeks.

Next, the real fireworks (because it involves lawyers and money) begin when the civil lawsuits against anyone with assets and possible blame hit the courthouse. Expect to see a lot of outrage.
 
entropychaser said:
The criminal trial of Jonathan Rinderknecht, accused of starting the Pacific Palisades fire last year, began last week in Federal Court in LA. He is charged with three felony arson counts. He is accused of starting the fire in a Santa Monica Mountain outlook early on 1/1/2025 because he "resented the wealthy". LAFD extinguished the fire then, but it smoldered underground and flared up a week later resulting in the conflagration.

The Judge, Anne Hwang, has limited the use of evidence of possible LAFD negligent action as a defense tactic. The trial is expected to last two to three weeks.

Next, the real fireworks (because it involves lawyers and money) begin when the civil lawsuits against anyone with assets and possible blame hit the courthouse. Expect to see a lot of outrage.
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Unfortunately the only ones whom will win, will be the lawyers. Doubt they'll be too much change in anything that would matter or make a difference.
 
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