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  There's a picture from the 70's in the kitchen of 94/48- taxpayer on Southern Blvd showing L59 and E323 operating.  Makes a bit more sense now.
 
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Good information "atlas". Thanks.
The numbers are just numbers; they are a helpful reference for determining who was busy, but they don't come close to telling the real story of the actions of The Bravest.
 

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These are the 1943, 1944, 1947, 1956, 1965, 1966, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1975, 1979 and 1984 runs and worker leaders.  1970 started adaptive response (2 + 1) and TCUs.  Note the double section companies in 1943, 1944 and 1947 and the later 2nd section companies of the early War Years, 1969-1971.



Note - Click a second time on the image to enlarge to read.
 
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At one point in this thread, "guitarman" posted a list of Interchanges from Sept 1972.  Would it be fair to say that at that time the company doing the covering did not get credit for any runs or work they did?
 
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grumpy grizzly said:
I find FDNY relocation runs interesting. In Boston, if E34 relocated to E33, well any responses would be credited to E34. In Chicago if  L59 relocates to L61  all runs are the runs of L59. I am not making fun of the policy, just why? The ACTUAL company did the run, not the HOUSE. ???

As a current FDNY officer I can tell you that we record any runs we do, while relocated, on the CD-14 (list of runs/workers) at the company where we are relocated to, and it's been that way as long as I remember. (In RED at the back of the book.)

The amount of these runs are "generally" pretty insignificant and I don't think 90% of the company officers even know who gets the credit or doesn't!  In all honesty none of the runs probably get credited to anyone at all!!! And I'd be willing to believe the same went for the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, or 90's! :)

Everything is computerized now.  The difference between what WE record and the computer printouts is quite different.  Generally, the computerized printouts have more runs for us than we have recorded.
 
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I meant no respect to any company or any member of FDNY or for that matter any member or company. It seems in these asture budget times and crisis the only thing the bean counters see is "out the door" which is a crock. If somebody else has to cover your  house I guess you need the original company and those who covered the area. I guess the bean counters would have to figure out the runs from a particular company in their first due area and on a move-up. Asking too much for the bean counters, huh?? ???Stay safe and stay low my brothers
 
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grumpy grizzly said:
I meant no respect to any company or any member of FDNY or for that matter any member or company. It seems in these asture budget times and crisis the only thing the bean counters see is "out the door" which is a crock. If somebody else has to cover your  house I guess you need the original company and those who covered the area. I guess the bean counters would have to figure out the runs from a particular company in their first due area and on a move-up. Asking too much for the bean counters, huh?? ???Stay safe and stay low my brothers

Hope that wasn't directed at me.

I know you meant no disrespect.  I'm just trying to clarify something that no one seems to be able to clarify.  INCLUDING MYSELF!!! :)

It's very ambiguous...
 
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On another site (FDNYRANT), I read this by "seniorofficer" and thought it told just a small part of the War Years Story. I quote "seniorofficer".... "Engine 235, you're going in Third Due to a working fire, West 21st Street and Surf Ave". "Pack a lunch, it's a long ride fellas". (I hope "senionofficer" doesn't mind me using this)
  How I remember those Days. Hard to believe, but Engine 235 leaving their own response area, to go as the Third Due Engine to Coney Island. Similiar to seeing Queens Engine 323 operating in the Bronx on Southern Blvd. as "scoopbyd" said earlier.
  I have to guess it must have been a nightmare trying to figure out if you are going in as the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd due Engine, or 1st or 2nd Due Truck. Of course as most of us know, that plays an important key role on what your assignment is on the fireground. And for those Battalion or Deputy Chiefs, I have no idea on how they kept track of who was doing what.
  Your primary response area might be private dwellings, but before the night was over, you could be stretching that first line in on the Top Floor of a six Brick Multiple Dwelling. My guess is that if you were on the job during those Busy War Years, no matter what company or where you worked, very few escaped the "out of control" Action. And in reality, as I understand it, NOBODY really wanted to escape the Action.
  Therefore, "They" really were the Greatest Generation of Firefighters during the Busiest of Times we've ever seen.
 
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nfd2004 said:
Similiar to seeing Engine 323 operating in the Bronx on Southern Blvd. as "scoopbyd" said earlier.

When I was a kid, a Lieutenant in E-323 lived on my block and his MPO lived directly across the street from him. I can remember them coming down the block in 'Their Quad' frequently on their way back from runs. Back then, the majority of the men in the community were cops, Firemen and sanitation men.
 
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nfd2004 said:
Similiar to seeing "Queens" Engine 323 operating in the Bronx on Southern Blvd. as "scoopbyd" said earlier.

  What's wrong with this "NFD2004 Guy" ??? When did BROOKLYN's ENGINE 323, ever move to QUEEN'S. It's Home has been Brooklyn for years.
 
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nfd2004 said:
nfd2004 said:
Similiar to seeing "Queens" Engine 323 operating in the Bronx on Southern Blvd. as "scoopbyd" said earlier.

  What's wrong with this "NFD2004 Guy" ??? When did BROOKLYN's ENGINE 323, ever move to QUEEN'S. It's Home has been Brooklyn for years.

There's nothing wrong with you Brother ... You introduce a lot of topics that bring back great memories ... thanks for continuing to contribute ...
 
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A couple more questions for all of you:
Have the street patterns (direction of one-ways) in the Bronx remained the same for the past 40 or so years?
Obviously the buildings have changed.

Have the box locations and assignments remained the same?

And E83's first due area back in the 60's...was that industrial (something like Long Island City is now), or a mix of residential?
 
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"Bronx72", yes many box assignments have changed. Companies have been disbanded and a few new firehouses have changed response assignments. Somebody mentioned about changes to 48/56 and 75/33 on another thread just recently.

  Over the last 40 years, I have to guess that there have been some changes to street patterns.

  And Engine 83 has been a combination of a little of everything. Industrial, Multiple Dwellings, etc. Might even have a few Private dwellings in the neighborhood. It hasn't changed much over the years. But I'm sure there's people out there that know more about these questions than I do.
 
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To answer street patterns yes they do change. Actually in the past week in Hunts Point Faile St., a one way street, was changed to a one way going in the opposite direction between Bruckner Blvd and Westchester Ave.  This was done b/c there is a new traffic patterin at the 163, Hunts Point Ave, Southern Blvd intersection that allows no turns.  I am sure that this is not the only place in the city where traffic patterns have changed. 
 
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Once again my GOOD FRIEND, "mikeindabronx" has added some GREAT Bronx and Harlem photos to his web site. Mike has now added "page 12" to his Great photo Collection from the FDNY 1980s.
  Mike, I gotta tell you, "You sure are one Tough Act to Follow".
  To see these Great Photos, go to his site: 
                      www.fdnysbravest.com      (then go to page 12 for his latest photos)
  Thanks very much Mike. You sure did One Great Job. And now a total of Twelve Pages of some of the Best and Most Historic FDNY Photos out there.
 
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