New fdny rescue's???

anesti said:
has anyone heard if they are in production yet?? i forgot they were coming from ferrara right??

The bid was awarded to Ferrara for 5 new custom rescue apparatus.  They have not started the build yet.
 
Should be nice looking trucks when they're finished. Did FDNY have Ferrara make custom cabs? And does anyone know if those are the cabs for the rear-mount aerials as well?
 
Looks like they enclosed the igniter chassis! They have built three rigs for me, they will pay close attention to the FDNY rigs!
 
Can't figure out why they're getting a new rig for R-1 when their current rig is only 3 years old?  I guess to either put it in reserve, or to have a really nice spare...........
 
Bob Dobalina said:
Can't figure out why they're getting a new rig for R-1 when their current rig is only 3 years old?  I guess to either put it in reserve, or to have a really nice spare...........

All rescue's have to be replaced together is my understanding
 
IRISH said:
Bob Dobalina said:
Can't figure out why they're getting a new rig for R-1 when their current rig is only 3 years old?  I guess to either put it in reserve, or to have a really nice spare...........

All rescue's have to be replaced together is my understanding
That was always my understanding too.  However when they bought the new R-1 from Pierce they only bought one truck so I assumed that was no longer true.  I do think the members prefer all the trucks are the same so it is easier when multiple units are operating together.  I am surprised Pierce didn't end up with the order says everyone seems to like that truck and it has been doing quite well.  Especially when they have no experience with Ferrara as far as rescues go in high use situations.

I'm quite sure the existing R-1 will become the frontline spare and probably will be kept fully equipped looks like Rescue 6 is now!
 
IRISH said:
Bob Dobalina said:
Can't figure out why they're getting a new rig for R-1 when their current rig is only 3 years old?  I guess to either put it in reserve, or to have a really nice spare...........

All rescue's have to be replaced together is my understanding

It never used to be that way..............
 
Bulldog said:
IRISH said:
Bob Dobalina said:
Can't figure out why they're getting a new rig for R-1 when their current rig is only 3 years old?  I guess to either put it in reserve, or to have a really nice spare...........

All rescue's have to be replaced together is my understanding
That was always my understanding too.  However when they bought the new R-1 from Pierce they only bought one truck so I assumed that was no longer true.  I do think the members prefer all the trucks are the same so it is easier when multiple units are operating together.  I am surprised Pierce didn't end up with the order says everyone seems to like that truck and it has been doing quite well.  Especially when they have no experience with Ferrara as far as rescues go in high use situations.

I'm quite sure the existing R-1 will become the frontline spare and probably will be kept fully equipped looks like Rescue 6 is now!

I may be wrong but wasn't the R1 Saulsbury was having problems with the Manhattan Roads, and not holding up??

 
The Pierce was bought with Homeland Security money.  If somebody offers to buy you a new half-million dollar truck, it'd be pretty foolish to say no, especially when it would give you the opportunity to try out a truck brand you've never had experience with.  As for buying all the rescues at once, the first time that was done was with the 1996 HMEs.  The Mack MRs they replaced were all essentially the same truck, but 2 were bought in 1985, 2 in 1988, and the last of the five in 1990.  Prior to that, it seemed to be a catch-as-catch-can operation of procuring rescues. As for why Ferrara got the contract, that's a no-brainer . . . they were the low bidder who satisfied all of FDNY's bidding itches.  And they're NOT the first Ferrara rescues . . . all 5 collapse rescues are Ferraras, although on Mack or Spartan chassis. Does anyone know if Pierce even bid on the new rescues?
 
Are any of the 1996 HME Rescues still on the roster? If not anyone know where they were sold to?
 
baileyjeff said:
Are any of the 1996 HME Rescues still on the roster? If not anyone know where they were sold to?
i think the former R-5 was transfered to hazmat. i had heard that there FDNY owns 10 rescues so i wouldnt be suprised if there was 1 or 2 still around. does anyone know what the current roster for rescues is?
 
Well I think it is the 2006 at R1, after that you have the 2002 E-one salusburys with R4 taking R1's former rig. I believe that R4's original is now a spare. I believe Rescue 6 is the Spirit of Oklahoma which is the 2002 Freightliner/American LaFrance. I'm not sure about the rest but I believe that one of them is the 2002 Mack MR/General.

Not sure about the rest, but that accounts for 8.
 
Was just looking through FDNY Apparatus couldn't see any of the HME's apart from the photos of when they where in service
 
IRISH said:
Was just looking through FDNY Apparatus couldn't see any of the HME's apart from the photos of when they where in service

just found R5 HME on the HAZ-MAT 1 page

so with R6 & R7 as spare would that class 1996 HME 3,4,5 as reserve??
 
There are still two 1996 HME/Saulsbury spare rescues (former Rescue 3 (SR9603) and Rescue 4 (SR9604).
Former 1996 HME/Saulsbury Rescue 5 (SR9605) is a spare Haz-Mat, but may be DX'd very soon.
Former Rescue 4 2002 E-One (SR02004) is a spare rescue.
The 2002 Freightliner/ALF (AR02001) is a spare rescue.
The 2002 Mack/General Safety-Rosenbauer (GR02001) is Reserve Rescue 7.

Current Rescues:
2007 Pierce Arrow       (PR07001)-Rescue 1
2002 E-One/Saulsbury (SR 02002) Rescue 2
2002 E-One/Saulsbury (SR 02003) Rescue 3
2002 E-One/Saulsbury (SR 02001) Rescue 4
2002 E-One/Saulsbury (SR 02005) Rescue 5

The first of the five new Ferrara rescues is in the final stages of construction and should be in by late November-mid December
 
raybrag said:
 And they're NOT the first Ferrara rescues . . . all 5 collapse rescues are Ferraras, although on Mack or Spartan chassis.
The collapse rescues aren't even close to the same as the Rescues themselves.  I would venture to say they don't even respond to 5% of their runs the rescues respond to so they should last an awful lot longer.  I'm not saying that the new Ferrara rescues will not be good units but there isn't anything in service at the present time to compare them to.
 
IRISH said:
I may be wrong but wasn't the R1 Saulsbury was having problems with the Manhattan Roads, and not holding up??
Does anyone have any further information regarding this?  I know the initial reports were very positive.
 
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