New Seagrave Contracts

[Joebud2006]

I get the feeling that Pierce mfg just dropped Detroit Diesel and switched to PACCAR motors for their engine option. I saw this in their chassis pages that they only offer Cummins and PACCAR motors. They must’ve dropped Detroit recently which they had exclusive rights to.

 

[Anthony Russo]

It has to be a Cummins diesel, Detroit Diesel is no longer available to any fire apparatus manufacturer ( unless you use a Freightliner chassis).

Detroit Diesel is also an option on Western Star Trucks.

 

[Q28MG90]

Just curious, what motor does FDNY spec? Cummins or Detroit?

Per Seagrave, FDNY apparatus uses the Cummins X12 500 HP engine. It's listed on their Recent Deliveries page.

 

[GFD70]

I get the feeling that Pierce mfg just dropped Detroit Diesel and switched to PACCAR motors for their engine option. I saw this in their chassis pages that they only offer Cummins and PACCAR motors. They must’ve dropped Detroit recently which they had exclusive rights to.

You might be right about dropping Detroit. Supposedly, they had a lot of issues due to electrical components and the DPF system. Cummins basically has the monopoly at this point. Life would be a lot better if fire trucks were exempt from the DPF standard. Caterpillar got out of the over-the-road business because of their issues with the DPF system.

 

[jking7]

I'd guess Seagrave, if not Ferrara. Right now, Seagrave seems to be the only manufacturer able to meet the departments requirements. Also recently they have stepped up thier rescue game, just look at New Haven's R*1.

New Haven' s rig is a Seagrave chassis with a Rescue 1 body. https://rescue1mfg.com/new-haven-fire-dept/

 

[Signal73]

 

[Bulldog]

Interesting looking truck and by appearances it matches the FDNY rescues, I wonder if it matches all other aspects that the contract requires?

 

[AYoung]

Interesting looking truck and by appearances it matches the FDNY rescues, I wonder if it matches all other aspects that the contract requires?

Doesn’t FDNY require single manufacturer? As in the fact the box is made by Rescue 1 disqualify them?

 

[soda-acid]

Doesn’t FDNY require single manufacturer? As in the fact the box is made by Rescue 1 disqualify them?

Another reason why they "paint themselves in a corner". As I've stated before what will they do when there are no bidders?

 

[fdny747]

Does anyone have or know where to see the spec for the NEW Ladders?

 

[Jking1103]

Which companies use the 95ft Tower Ladders now? Or are they all 75ft?

 

[116ff60]

Which companies use the 95ft Tower Ladders now? Or are they all 75ft?

Right now 95ft TL's are 9, 12, 14, 44, 51, 58,85, 107, 117, 119, 121, 152, 161, 163, 172.

Which companies use the 95ft Tower Ladders now? Or are they all 75ft?

 

[carpandean]

Near as I can tell, it's all Seagrave.


This one, too.

Obviously, neither has the recessed light panels that FDNY likes, but I'm confident that Seagrave could figure it out.

 

[DaveReinstein]

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Near as I can tell, it's all Seagrave.

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This one, too.

Obviously, neither has the recessed light panels that FDNY likes, but I'm confident that Seagrave could figure it out.

That’s a sharp looking truck. Seagrave make SOME of the best looking trucks out there.

 

[carpandean]

Really quick 'n' dirty mockup:



This is actually the second time that I have mocked up a Seagrave FDNY Rescue. The first was when we built the Seagrave/Saulsbury rescue for Berwyn Heights, MD (later sold to Annville.) It was a customer-supplied Seagrave chassis, but we got the CAD drawings for it. So, for fun, I put it on the E-One/Saulsbury FDNY design that I was working on. Don't recall if I ever printed them out.

 

[entropychaser]

Can anyone explain to me why anyone needs a 2000 GPM pumper? And where do you find the water supply for it?

 

[carpandean]

Can anyone explain to me why anyone needs a 2000 GPM pumper? And where do you find the water supply for it?

 

[Bulldog]

Doug asked me to post these

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Just wondering about the special emblems on various companies such as the "Pride of the Point" emblem on this unit. If the design and implementation of it paid for by the company themselves or to the FDNY pay for the genocide in implementation of the logos? You get on most companies including the sides of tower ladders.

 

[Lebby]

Doug asked me to post these

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I'm confused how they got a picture of the rig with the logo on the logo. Is that the old logo photoshopped on maybe?

 

[AuxWarYearsCapt]

I'm confused how they got a picture of the rig with the logo on the logo. Is that the old logo photoshopped on maybe?

Lebby... what do you mean logo on logo ??