New Seagraves

Please forgive me if I seem clueless or incompetent, but what’s the deal with 165 supposedly getting a Squad-pattern pumper? The good captain has said in the rear mounts’ thread that 165 is getting one, and it’s to my understanding that they’re a HMTU, but the others don’t have Squad-pattern pumpers, so if this is true, why on earth is 165 the only company to get this privilege outside of SOC?

Thank you in advance to anyone who is willing to help me understand.
 
Please forgive me if I seem clueless or incompetent, but what’s the deal with 165 supposedly getting a Squad-pattern pumper? The good captain has said in the rear mounts’ thread that 165 is getting one, and it’s to my understanding that they’re a HMTU, but the others don’t have Squad-pattern pumpers, so if this is true, why on earth is 165 the only company to get this privilege outside of SOC?

Thank you in advance to anyone who is willing to help me understand.
Didn't 165 have a squad pumper for a little while or am I thinking of 156?

To take a guess at your question, MAYBE the Department is considering getting the HMTU Engines into Squad Pumpers, and 165 could be a testing phase.
Don't take that for 100% fact, that is just me guessing.
 
Didn't 165 have a squad pumper for a little while or am I thinking of 156?

To take a guess at your question, MAYBE the Department is considering getting the HMTU Engines into Squad Pumpers, and 165 could be a testing phase.
Don't take that for 100% fact, that is just me guessing.
as far as i had heard back then, Engine 165 requested the rescue pumper because they are an HMTU. When squad 8 was organized the rescue pumper was reassigned to squad 8 and is now reserve squad 800.
 
Didn't 165 have a squad pumper for a little while or am I thinking of 156?

To take a guess at your question, MAYBE the Department is considering getting the HMTU Engines into Squad Pumpers, and 165 could be a testing phase.
Don't take that for 100% fact, that is just me guessing.
That would make sense. This was their rig back in the day, so it would make sense that, given their status as an HMTU, they’d want a newer one after the job took the old one. Though I wouldn’t put it past the brass to realize that maybe all of the HMTUs should have a squad pumper, given they’ve already bought those fancy 2nd pieces for each of them.

Additionally, moving to all HMTUs having squad pumpers would ease up on maintenance, because the job could order more parts and actually use them for more than 8 rigs, even if it only goes up to a maximum of 13-15 rigs.

I haven’t the slightest clue if I’m onto something, so I’d appreciate feedback on my theories.

Cheers!
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That would make sense. This was their rig back in the day, so it would make sense that, given their status as an HMTU, they’d want a newer one after the job took the old one. Though I wouldn’t put it past the brass to realize that maybe all of the HMTUs should have a squad pumper, given they’ve already bought those fancy 2nd pieces for each of them.

Additionally, moving to all HMTUs having squad pumpers would ease up on maintenance, because the job could order more parts and actually use them for more than 8 rigs, even if it only goes up to a maximum of 13-15 rigs.

I haven’t the slightest clue if I’m onto something, so I’d appreciate feedback on my theories.

Cheers!
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Since Engine 67 will be a HMTU, will they get a rig from FSU or will they get a new rig as well
 
That would make sense. This was their rig back in the day, so it would make sense that, given their status as an HMTU, they’d want a newer one after the job took the old one. Though I wouldn’t put it past the brass to realize that maybe all of the HMTUs should have a squad pumper, given they’ve already bought those fancy 2nd pieces for each of them.

Additionally, moving to all HMTUs having squad pumpers would ease up on maintenance, because the job could order more parts and actually use them for more than 8 rigs, even if it only goes up to a maximum of 13-15 rigs.

I haven’t the slightest clue if I’m onto something, so I’d appreciate feedback on my theories.

Cheers!
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Since just about every front line unit is common to each other, they already have the spare parts sitting there. ( With the obvious difference of Ferrara vs Seagrave etc) The shops have a lot of spare parts sitting around waiting. Aerial sections, cab and compartment doors, door handles, shelves, fittings, windows... They probably have enough parts to build a new pump including the housing and still have spares left over. There maybe some differences here and there like squad body doors vs an engine body door, but most of the cabs are identical, ( with the obvious differences of Ferrara vs Seagrave etc) power trains are almost identical, pumps, valves etc are the same. So there's really no extra spare parts that the shops would need for the squads that aren't actually on the regular engines.
 
Is there an updated lists on assignments for the new Towers and rear mounts? I’m not sure if I’m in the wrong post but I cant seam to find it. Thank you!
 
Is there an updated lists on assignments for the new Towers and rear mounts? I’m not sure if I’m in the wrong post but I cant seam to find it. Thank you!
This is the most updated I have for now, I have an idea for what companies the missing TL's are.. I just want to wait to confirm. Hope this helps.

REARMOUNTS:

SL 22001. LAD. CO. 032
----------------------------------------------------
SL 23001. LAD. CO. 123
SL 23002. LAD. CO. 154
SL 23003. LAD. CO. 042
SL 23004. LAD. CO. 156
SL 23005. LAD. CO. 165
SL 23006. LAD. CO. 173
SL 23007. LAD. CO. 049
SL 23008. LAD. CO. 038
--------------------------------------------------
SL 24001. LAD. CO. 113
SL 24002. LAD. CO. 132
SL 24003. LAD. CO. 008
SL 24004. LAD. CO. 003
SL 24005. LAD. CO. 011
SL 24006. LAD. CO. 128
--------------------------------------------------
SL 25001. LAD. CO. 061
SL 25002. LAD. CO. 080
SL 25003. LAD. CO. 084
SL 25004. LAD. CO. 125
SL 25005. LAD. CO. 043
SL 25006. LAD. CO. 116
SL 25007. LAD. CO. 019
SL 25008. LAD. CO. 140
SL 25009. LAD. CO. 055

TOWER LADDERS:

ST 20001. CTS
ST 20002. T046
ST 20003. T138
ST 20004. T124
ST 20005. T142
ST 20006. T022
ST 20007. T050
--------------------------------------------------
ST 21001. T023
ST 21002. T015
ST 21003. T077
ST 21004. T162
ST 21005. T153
ST 21006. T076
ST 21007. T031
ST 21008. T146
ST 21009. T041
ST 21010N. T021
--------------------------------------------------
ST 22001N. T163
ST 22002N. T035
ST 22003. T135
ST 22004. T013
ST 22005. T159
--------------------------------------------------
ST 23001. T087
ST 23002. T086
--------------------------------------------------
ST 24001. T157
ST 24002N. T172
ST 24003. T053
ST 24004N. T012
--------------------------------------------------
ST 25001. T018
ST 25002N. T152
ST 25003. T001
ST 25004N. T009
ST 25005. T170
ST 25006N. T119
ST 25007. T107
ST 25008N. T161
ST 25009.
ST 25010N. T117
ST 25011.
ST 25012N. T044
ST 25013.
ST 25014N. T058
ST 25015.
ST 25016N. T014
 
This is the most updated I have for now, I have an idea for what companies the missing TL's are.. I just want to wait to confirm. Hope this helps.

REARMOUNTS:

SL 22001. LAD. CO. 032
----------------------------------------------------
SL 23001. LAD. CO. 123
SL 23002. LAD. CO. 154
SL 23003. LAD. CO. 042
SL 23004. LAD. CO. 156
SL 23005. LAD. CO. 165
SL 23006. LAD. CO. 173
SL 23007. LAD. CO. 049
SL 23008. LAD. CO. 038
--------------------------------------------------
SL 24001. LAD. CO. 113
SL 24002. LAD. CO. 132
SL 24003. LAD. CO. 008
SL 24004. LAD. CO. 003
SL 24005. LAD. CO. 011
SL 24006. LAD. CO. 128
--------------------------------------------------
SL 25001. LAD. CO. 061
SL 25002. LAD. CO. 080
SL 25003. LAD. CO. 084
SL 25004. LAD. CO. 125
SL 25005. LAD. CO. 043
SL 25006. LAD. CO. 116
SL 25007. LAD. CO. 019
SL 25008. LAD. CO. 140
SL 25009. LAD. CO. 055

TOWER LADDERS:

ST 20001. CTS
ST 20002. T046
ST 20003. T138
ST 20004. T124
ST 20005. T142
ST 20006. T022
ST 20007. T050
--------------------------------------------------
ST 21001. T023
ST 21002. T015
ST 21003. T077
ST 21004. T162
ST 21005. T153
ST 21006. T076
ST 21007. T031
ST 21008. T146
ST 21009. T041
ST 21010N. T021
--------------------------------------------------
ST 22001N. T163
ST 22002N. T035
ST 22003. T135
ST 22004. T013
ST 22005. T159
--------------------------------------------------
ST 23001. T087
ST 23002. T086
--------------------------------------------------
ST 24001. T157
ST 24002N. T172
ST 24003. T053
ST 24004N. T012
--------------------------------------------------
ST 25001. T018
ST 25002N. T152
ST 25003. T001
ST 25004N. T009
ST 25005. T170
ST 25006N. T119
ST 25007. T107
ST 25008N. T161
ST 25009.
ST 25010N. T117
ST 25011.
ST 25012N. T044
ST 25013.
ST 25014N. T058
ST 25015.
ST 25016N. T014
Thanks for sharing -
For the Towers not shown above AGE WISE in no particular # number other than year:
TL 131 2012
TL 51 2013
TL33 2013
TL111 2013
TL121 2013
TL79 2014
TL85 2014
TL105 2014
TL144 2014
TL45 2015
TL149 2015
TL115 201
TL158 2015
TL160 2015
TL 7 2016
TL54 2016
TL114 2016
TL127 2016
TL155 2016
TL17 2017
TL120 2017
TL 164 2018


Citywide stats Tower Ladders 61 Companies
Manhattan Thirteen
Da Bronx Eleven
Staten Island Six
Brooklyn Sixteen
Queens Fifteen
+ one training
+ Reserve Tower 600 ( housed at E37 /L40)
+ ??? spare

Add correct or change if anything missed
 
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