Rescue Medics attached to Rescues 2 & 5

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Don't have a lot of details on it, but as part of a new pilot program 48R and 22R (now designated XR2 and XR5 respectively) are removed from the 911 system, updated 89s (Cross Street Locations) to the attached suppression rescue unit, that they now respond with. Farther backed up by rundowns I provided a few nights ago at a handful of jobs.

Just speculation but from what I could tell from a couple of the MCIs was that they were getting attached to the FAST Truck aswell.

Operates on the EMS Citywide 1 Frequency.
 
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Do I see a much needed and deserved salary increase coming for EMS as things of this nature unfold. Yawn, it's early and I must still be dreaming.
 
NikFDNY said:
Don't have a lot of details on it, but as part of a new pilot program 48R and 22R (now designated XR2 and XR5 respectively) are removed from the 911 system, updated 89s (Cross Street Locations) to the attached suppression rescue unit, that they now respond with. Farther backed up by rundowns I provided a few nights ago at a handful of jobs.

Just speculation but from what I could tell from a couple of the MCIs was that they were getting attached to the FAST Truck aswell.

Operates on the EMS Citywide 1 Frequency.
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Are their respective 89's changed to the Rescue company's firehouse and they respond when the rescue responds?
 
CVILLE7111 said:
Who dispatches them: Fire or EMS dispatchers?
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From what I can decipher when Rescue turns out the Medic unit informs the EMS Citywide dispatcher that they are responding with the Rescue company to the specific box number and or address. The information regarding where they are responding appears to be relayed to the Medics by the Rescue Company itself.
 
Having Rescue Medics Respond with the Rescue Companies is a great idea. I am also a great believer that a Rescue Medic Unit should respond with the F.A.S.T. Truck to every 10-75 and that that Rescue Medic Unit should generally ONLY be used for Firefighters. Dedication to Firefighter use only in the same way the Department Ambulances were once used for firefighters only. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retiredFDNY Ambulance 1 Bus.jpg
 
It's understandable what you are saying Cap, and I agree with you, but there are other aspects that would lead to bigger problems. For instance, the Medic Unit just happens to be getting into the job before other EMS arrive and are confronted with a civilian in extremis from whatever, burns, injuries, etc. that needs immediate transport. The crew can't say "We're only here for FD personnel you'll have to wait a few minutes." That would be a can of worms to say the least. It will be a "let's hope that never happens" crap shoot.
 
When on scene it seemed that they were getting attached to the FAST Truck primarily, but their obvious priority is to treat any patients if no other units have yet to arrive. At Brooklyn 10-75 Box 1622 XR2 was treating/transporting a red-tag victim with 37 Frank, Meanwhile at Brooklyn 2nd Alarm Box 1439 they were attached to the FAST truck. Would be nice to see a rescue medic attached to Rescue 4 as that seems to be where the last few FAST truck deployments have been to my knowledge (believe the member was removed prior to the FAST truck getting to them though.)
 
While I get your point, many other major Fire Departments, including Chicago and L.A., have an A.L.S. unit designated for firefighters.
I also know that in only about 11 % or 12 % of Maydays! the FAST/RIT Team or Unit is not the unit that rescues or removes the firefighter/s in distress. Most often in a Ff. Mayday! it is his own unit or a unit operating near the Mayday! that find and removes the endangered firefighter. What has happened is that E.M.S. get busy treating fire victims and a perhaps seriously injured must wait for A.L.S. emergency care. The answer may will be to have rapid response of a good deal more EMS units to all fires, and more A.L.S. Units to serious fires., so one or more ALS Units always, and I mean aways available for serious firefighter injuries. I am a former Paramedic and was E.M.T.-I. in addition to my time in the F.D.N.Y. as Firefighter & Fire Officer. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine
 
A question, what happens if the FAST Truck becomes a "Working Truck"? Does the ALS Bus stay until another FAST Truck arrives with a second ALS bus?
 
captaindewey50267021@gm said:
Having Rescue Medics Respond with the Rescue Companies is a great idea. I am also a great believer that a Rescue Medic Unit should respond with the F.A.S.T. Truck to every 10-75 and that that Rescue Medic Unit should generally ONLY be used for Firefighters. Dedication to Firefighter use only in the same way the Department Ambulances were once used for firefighters only. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retiredView attachment 51780
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Now I know where the term "Bus" came from. Thanks Cap!
 
Brothers & Sisters, the FAST Truck should never be put to use as anything other the FAST operations until a new FAST truck is on the scene and in position to operate as the FAST tucks/unit. Putting the FAST Truck to work for NON-FAST operations means placing the members on the scene into Jeopardy until the new FAST units is on the scene, in position and importantly versed in the building and the fire situation. Let us not play catch up if something goes wrong. I have been teaching and studying FAST/RIT operations for many years now and STRONLY disagree with any use of FAST teams for NON-FAST duties. Chief's if you have to put the FAST team to work for fire duty you are NOT doing your job and anticipating future needs. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
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